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ROSS prior to 1863
« on: Wednesday 16 May 07 04:48 BST (UK) »
Good morning Members,

I am attempting to find some information regarding members of the ROSS family who emigrated from Scotland [location unknown] to South Africa prior to 1863.

A son, Johan 'John' Jurgens ROSS was born on 23 Dec 1863 at Graaf Reinett, RSA. [parents' names unknown] Grin
Johan married Elizabeth Elzie Susannah CADLE in the 1890s in RSA.

Not much to go on, but, any small snippet of information will be greatly appreciated.

Sincerely

EDO
in Brisbane
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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 25 August 07 06:33 BST (UK) »
There is a death notice for Elizabeth inb the SA Archives

DEPOT     VAB                                                                   SOURCE    MHG                                                                   TYPE      LEER                                                                  SYSTEM    02                                                                    REFERENCE 30088                                                                 PART      1                                                                     DESCRIPTION          ROSS, ELIZABETH ELSIE SUSANNA. NOOIENSVAN: CADLE. EGGENOOT: JOHAN                JURGENS ROSS.                                                        STARTING  19380000                                                              ENDING    19380000     
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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 August 07 07:20 BST (UK) »
Good morning Izabel

Thank you for that information.

'Every little piece of information assists greatly towards the desired outcome!

EDO
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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 26 August 07 00:08 BST (UK) »
Hi EDO

This is the file you should get to find his parents - his wife's one will only list her parents.

DEPOT     VAB
SOURCE    MHG
REFERENCE 35156
DESCRIPTION          ROSS, JOHAN JURGENS. EGGENOTE [Spouse] ELIZABETH ELSIE SUSANNA (GEBORE [Born] CADLE).
STARTING  19430000
ENDING    19430000

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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 September 07 05:44 BST (UK) »
Good morning Moira

Thank you for that information.

EDO
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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 December 07 21:09 GMT (UK) »
i could go to the archives and get these details if you wish!
am on leave for a few days!
God Bless
Delva
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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 December 07 06:39 GMT (UK) »
Good day Delva

Sorry for my late response ........

Thank you very much for your kind offer!

Firstly, do you know how much it will cost?

Secondly, YES please, I would like you to gather the information when you are able to spare your valuable time.

""This is the file you should get to find his parents - his wife's one will only list her parents.

DEPOT     VAB
SOURCE    MHG
REFERENCE 35156
DESCRIPTION          ROSS, JOHAN JURGENS. EGGENOTE [Spouse] ELIZABETH ELSIE SUSANNA (GEBORE [Born] CADLE).
STARTING  19430000
ENDING    19430000""

With sincere thanks

CRABBY
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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 December 07 14:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi there
There will be no cost, will do this when I take a few days leave just before Christmas.   Will write down particulars and if you want a copy will arrange for someone to go with to take photo!!
I am not technically minded at all and the photos are always flops!!

God Bless
Delva
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 December 07 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Thank you very much for your kind offer which is accepted with sincere thanks.

Regards

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Re: ROSS prior to 1863
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 January 08 15:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Crabby
Eventually got to Archieves today.
Info herewith
John Jurgens Ross born Graff Reinet
died 10.5.1943 @ 79years and 5 months.
at his son house Tempelhof, Ficksburg
father: Alexander Ross
Mother: Martha Johanna Maria born Fritz
Wife:  Elizabeth Elsie Susanna Cadle (she died 5.8.1938)
They were both missionaries.
John and Elizabeth were married in Greytown, Natal.
I see that they say he lived in Bainsvlei (which is just outside Bloemfontein but everything points to the fact that he lived in Parys, OFS - so he might have just been in Bainsvlei before he went to Hospital)
Children:
Martha Maria (married J.J. Pretorius)  (deceased) she had no children
Agnes ( married Charl Marais )  (deceased) three children
Alexander Washington Ross (lived Boschplaas, Wolmaranstad)
George Ellis N'tsane
Johan Jurgens Ross (lived Tempelhof,Ficksburg)
Henry William Ross
Elizabeth Cadle (married Frans Johannes Cronje van Niekerk)

Johan Jurgens Ross was with his father when he passed away.

He left the farm SEAPARK (dist. Alexandra, Natal)  and various erven in Parys to his children and his grandchildren by Agnes -
names of grandchildren (Agnes and Charl Marais)
Charl Petrus Marais b 11.1.1925
Elizabeth Cadle Marais b 13.4.1926
Janetta Johanna Marais b.11.2.1928

Hope this helps somewhat!!
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 January 08 15:08 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Elsie Susanna Ross
(nee Cadle)
born:  Umvoti Natal.
Father:  George Ellis Cadle
Mother: Martha Maria Bruwer
died 70 years and 11 months on 5.8.1938
She was a missionary
died at her son-in-laws house Tempelhof Ficksburg
(here they say the house at Tempelhof was the son-in-laws in her husband's file they say the house was her sons?Huh)

Hope that helps you somewhat!!

God Bless
Delva
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