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Marriage - Hobbs
« on: Friday 18 May 07 14:28 BST (UK) »
I am looking for a marriage between a William Hobbs and an Elizabeth ?

They had a daughter in Chiswick 1808, can anyone help in finding their marriage please?

Many thanks
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« Reply #1 on: Friday 18 May 07 14:40 BST (UK) »
This one appears on Boyds marriage index

Will HOBBS
Elz WHEELER

1800 -  Marylebone (St. Mary le Bone)
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Re: Marriage - Hobbs
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 23 May 07 16:29 BST (UK) »
Thank you for your reply and help.

Not sure about this one, so I will keep it on file for the moment.

On the IGI I have just found a few baptisms of Hobbs children -

Nanny Hobbs 1797, Sarah Hobbs 1799, Harriett Hobbs 1801, Joseph Hobbs 1805 Michael Hobbs  1810 Caroline Hobbs 1808. 

They all have the parents of William and Elizabeth Hobbs.

I am left wondering whether the William Hobbs and Elizabeth Wheeler you have found (also on the IGI) is in fact the parents of the above children all baptised in Chiswick.

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« Reply #3 on: Thursday 01 May 08 21:49 BST (UK) »
Hi Ewan

I'll add this to the LMA look-up list

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Re: Marriage - Hobbs
« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 May 08 06:57 BST (UK) »
Bless you for doing that Dawn, I thought this marriage may have been at the Westminster Archives ......... but what do I know?

When Sue gave me that marriage and still at the moment I have no connection to say that this is the correct William Hobbs and Elizabeth, so hopefully if you can find the marriage witness names and perhaps whether the bride and groom were 'of the parish' or not may give me some clues.

Many thanks again.
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 May 08 08:40 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ewan on Friday 02 May 08 06:57 BST (UK)
Bless you for doing that Dawn, I thought this marriage may have been at the Westminster Archives ......... but what do I know?


Hi Ewan

Marylebone is a bit of an anomally, it is now 'in Westminster' but all the registers are at the LMA, but Westminster City Archives has copies of the microfilms. If I can't read the film and need to see the register, it'll have to be at the LMA.

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 08 May 08 12:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Ewan

Fingers-crossed, I'm going to the LMA tomorrow.

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 08 May 08 18:30 BST (UK) »
Hello Dawn

Everything crossed Dawn! Shocked

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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 08 May 08 21:06 BST (UK) »
And just supposing they weren't married in Middlesex at all.  Roll Eyes

Theres this one also on Boyds index.

1791 / HOBBS  WM  /CHURCH  ELIZABETH / KINGS STANLEY / GLOUCESTERSHIRE 
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Re: Marriage - Hobbs
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 08 May 08 21:25 BST (UK) »
Hmm ............  Undecided

What can I say, apart from I'm orf to my bunk now.

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How does one find/look at Boyds index?

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 09 May 08 14:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the record of the marriage in Gloucestershire, although I will keep it on file I don't think that this is the marriage that I am looking for.  I have just seen that particular marriage on the IGI and it says that the couple were both baptised in Gloucestershire.

On the 1841 there is an Elizabeth Hobbs aged 60 living with her son Michael and family, stated as being born in Middlesex and the neighbours are her children that I have records of.  Although, there is a slight hiccup here because a couple of doors down there is a William Hobbs aged 85, so whether this is Elizabeth's husband I don't know Undecided

On the 1851 I have Elizabeth aged 73 living with her daughter Sarah and family, stated as being born in Chiswick.

Hopefully if Dawn can find the marriage that took place in Marylebone it will give some clues as to whether it is the correct marriage.

Thank you for your interest.
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 09 May 08 16:16 BST (UK) »
From St Marylebone Marriage register 1800

William Hobbs of this parish bachelor
and Elizabeth Wheeler of the same parish spinster
were married in this church by banns
this 28th day of December in the year 1800
by me Benjn Laurence (?) Curate
This marriage was solumnized between us
The mark of X Willm Hobbs
The mark of X Eliz Wheeler
In the presence of
The mark X Mary Webb
John Willcock (Parish witness, his signature is all over the register)


So do your know if your William & Elizabeth Hobbs could sign their names (this couple appeared not to be able to) and is Mary Webb familiar to you?

Other than that I don't know if this helps

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 09 May 08 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hello Dawn and thank you again for looking for the marriage of William Hobbs and Elizabeth ? (possibly Wheeler Undecided)

I am left wondering is this the marriage or not, daughter Nanny Hobbs was baptised at Chiswick in 1797 and then Sarah in 1799 etc.  Why would they of  married at Marylebone in 1800 and then back to Chiswick to have more children baptised at later years. 

Unfortunately, the name of Mary Webb does not seem familiar, also Dawn you mention could they sign their names, is there any way I would be able to determine this, at the moment I can't think of any documentation I could see to find this out.

Thank you again Dawn for your help it is very much appreciated, you have given me and everyone you have done look ups for very detailed information.

Meanwhile, does anyone have any tips, advice or input to help find a marriage for William Hobbs and an Elizabeth ?, or anything that could perhaps confirm that this is indeed their marriage at Marylebone.

Many thanks
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 09 May 08 22:50 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ewan on Friday 09 May 08 21:55 BST (UK)
Why would they of  married at Marylebone in 1800 and then back to Chiswick to have more children baptised at later years. 


Yes the date is out a bit, but all I can add on this point is that St Marylebone was one of 'the' places to get married. I just looked at the 1800 register, started in January because we didn't have an actual date and worked my way through pages and pages which were littered with 'Honourables' and 'Esquires', lots of 'Reverends' too, and Chiswick to Marylebone is not that far, between 6 and 7 miles.

The other thing to do is get a map of the surrounding parishes and go through them to see if they can be found elsewhere. (Something for me to do when I retire  Grin )

The church at Kew (a quick punt over the river Thames) was favoured by the Royal family and that hasn't made it's way onto the IGI either.

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« Reply #14 on: Saturday 10 May 08 11:19 BST (UK) »
Hello Dawn

A couple of years back when the marriage could not be found after 1800 by Chiswick church themselves they did suggest that perhaps they married in the bride's parish, so not having the foggiest where that was it was something I was going to have to look more into.   It could still be Marylebone but until I have some evidence that that is the couple I cannot confirm it.

I did notice on a map also that Marylebone is not too far from Chiswick, but what I think my next step is to as you suggest look on a map and find surrounding parishes.  I think Turnham Green is a neighbour but I am not sure if the church was there in 1800 ish.  Then there is Brentford, I will have a good scout around and see what I can come up with.  Hopefully if you are still doing this mammoth task that you are doing of look ups for England Grin you would be able to look at a parish for me sometime please.       

All the best , and thank you heaps for all your help.
Ewan

PS

This Mary Webb as the witness, would you of said, as far as you know, that she was not one of the parish witnesses as was John Wilcock?
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