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Re: Marriage - Hobbs
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 10 May 08 12:29 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ewan on Saturday 10 May 08 11:19 BST (UK)
This Mary Webb as the witness, would you of said, as far as you know, that she was not one of the parish witnesses as was John Wilcock?

I've got into a bit of a habit a looking at the previous and next pages to see if the witness names turn up again and again especially when they don't match the bride or grooms names, this is the case for John Willcock. He appears to be the parish professional witness.

Mary Webb didn't turn up on the surrounding pages so I suggest she was 'known' to the wedding party, unlike Mr Willcock, but it is only a suggestion. She could be a married sister of either party or the bride's best friend.

I've checked out this

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/Sumter/Middlesex.html

it's a transcription of the 9 volumes that make up Phillimores Middlesex marriage index

and the West Middlesex Marriage index can be found here

http://www.familyhistoryonline.net/index/database/WMiddlesexFHSmar.shtml

you can register for free to search the database, there are 5 returns but to see them will cost.

But Kew is south of the river in Surrey.

I've got the Surrey Marriage Index on CD, Kew is covered 1774-1785 then 1800-1837 so nothing there then but there is

William Hobbs to Elizabeth Griffis 31 May 1795 St Giles Camberwell

Can you send me your email via the personal message system and I'll send you the relevant pages from Phillimores Atlas. They are too large to post here.

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Re: Marriage - Hobbs
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 10 May 08 21:59 BST (UK) »
Hello Dawn

So it looks like Mary Webb could be part of the wedding party in some way or other. 

I have previously looked at Middlesex marriages on the website you mentioned, there were plenty of William Hobbs but not around the year that I am estimating the marriage to be.   

I have had a look at the surrounding parishes to Chiswick - Brentford, Ealing and Acton had no earlier marriages of that time, there is another church in Chiswick I had forgotten about (one of William Hobb's descendants was married there) but that was built much later, 1894 I think.  The only other promising one could be at Hammersmith St Pauls.  I did look at a website regarding St Giles Camberwell but it said that the church was built in 1844, and you mention a marriage there in 1795 so that did confuse me a bit. Roll Eyes 

I don't know if this could be relevant, but one (that I know of) of the grandchildren of this couple was born in the area of St Pauls Hammersmith and his parents were married at St Peters Hammersmith.  Also, their daughter Caroline was married at All Saints  Fulham.

I will pm you later Dawn.
Thanks for all you comments and help, I am sure you must be very busy relaying back all the results of your look ups.
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« Reply #17 on: Sunday 11 May 08 14:56 BST (UK) »
Hello Dawn

Thank you very much for the information all received fine.

I haven't totally given up on the Elizabeth Wheeler marriage yet because there is an Elizabeth Wheeler also living in Chiswick at the same time as the William and Elizabeth according to censuses.  She may be related as a cousin to the Elizabeth that married William Hobbs.   I am yet to find out if there is a connection on this one or whether it is just one of those red herrings. 

Meanwhile I will wait to see if anything turns up at Camberwell, thanks for that as well.

Many thanks again, your kindness is much appreciated.
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« Reply #18 on: Saturday 07 June 08 17:02 BST (UK) »
Hi Ewan

From St Giles Camberwell marriage register

William Hobbs of this parish bachelor
and Elizabeth Griffis of this parish spinster
were married in this church by Banns
this thirtyfirst day of May in the year 1795
by me John King Curate
This marriage was solumnized between us
William Hobbs (signed his name)
Elizabeth Griffiths (signed her name, note the spelling)
in the presence of
The mark X of Jno Hobbs
William Strickland (signed his name)

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 08 June 08 06:33 BST (UK) »
Hello Dawn

Thank you once again for your time helping me to try and find the marriage of my ancestors William Hobbs and Elizabeth.

You have looked at a marriage from St Marylebone and also St Giles Camberwell for which I am most grateful, oh and not forgetting searching Chiswick records where I expected a marriage to be found.

I don't know if you took notice but did you note whether the witness of the St Giles marriage William Strickland was a church warden or not.  At present the name does not ring any bells to me.

I think these will have to go on the back burner for now as I just can't connect them to my lot, it does get harder the further back you go.

The only thing I can think of, for in the future is to see if any of the 2 couples had children baptised at those churches, and if there were any after 1805, when I know there were at least 3 more of my ancestors children baptised at Chiswick then that would rule the 2 marriages out of the equation.  Mind you if that were to be the case I would probably say perhaps they never married or married on the moon somewhere! 

I will not bother you with any more research regarding this lot as you have been most helpful to me in looking.  I thank you again for what you have done.

All the very best
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 08 June 08 08:22 BST (UK) »
Quote from: Ewan on Sunday 08 June 08 06:33 BST (UK)
I don't know if you took notice but did you note whether the witness of the St Giles marriage William Strickland was a church warden or not.  At present the name does not ring any bells to me.
 

Hi Ewan

I did check (a habit I've got into when the names don't match), I went back a few pages and then forward a few but didn't see Mr Stickland anywhere else.

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