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Arkwright
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Valler...Any Help Much Appreciated
« on: Sunday 20 May 07 16:45 UTC (UK) »


I have a family friend who has asked if I could find any information on the following people as he was aware that I am researching my own family tree.

I have had a cursory look but can't seem to find anything other than an entry in the 1841 census.

I'm afraid there's very little information to go on and i understand if no one wants to have a look as it could take up valuable time, but if there is anyone out there with time to spare, any help would be much appreciated.

Here's what he has:

James Valler born abt. 1796 Brighthelmstone married to Elizabeth ? born abt 1805.

Child: William Valler born abt 1826 married to Catherine ? born abt 1829

Child to William and Catherine: William Valler born abt 1852

Any info regarding this family would be much appreciated...

thanks in advance...
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Re: Valler...Any Help Much Appreciated
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 20 May 07 16:51 UTC (UK) »

Hi Arwright

The Sussex Marriage Index which goes up to 1837 has the following:

Lewes St Thomas Cliffe, East Sussex
James Valler and Elizabeth Wooldridge married on 15 December 1835
both of this parish and by Banns

Kerry
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 20 May 07 16:51 UTC (UK) »

1871 census RG10 1087 folio 60
33 Spring Street Brighton  Sussex  
William Valler 45 Wisborough Green, Sussex,  Head Married House Painter
Catherine A Valler 39 Brighton, Sussex,  Wife  Married
William Valler 20  Brighton, Sussex,  Son House painter unemployed

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 20 May 07 16:55 UTC (UK) »

Marriage for William:
William Valler and Catherine Ann Thorn
Sept 1857, District - Brighton
Volume 2b page 283

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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:00 UTC (UK) »

Hi Arwright

The Sussex Marriage Index which goes up to 1837 has the following:

Lewes St Thomas Cliffe, East Sussex
James Valler and Elizabeth Wooldridge married on 15 December 1835
both of this parish and by Banns

Kerry
Thanks for your speedy reply...

That would put them getting married about 10 years after the birth of their first child. Unless of course it was James second marriage and we are looking for a different mother to William?

Are there no marriages matching around 1825 Kerry?
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:01 UTC (UK) »

I found a 1851 census but don't know if it fits?

HO107 1647 16 25
Hove

James Valler, age 61, Cordwainer, born Dunsfield, Surrey (should that be Dunsfold??)
Elizabeth Vallery, age 41, born Chichester, Sussex

Don't know what you think?

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« Reply #6 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:02 UTC (UK) »

I'll go back and check again, Elizabeth is 20 years younger according to 1851 if correct! so could be second marriage!

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« Reply #7 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:03 UTC (UK) »

Yeah I found that one too Kerry...

It was Elizabeths age and birth places that didn't fit....
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:05 UTC (UK) »

Now this is intriguing!

Bearing in mind census return Valda found with William born Wisborough Green found the following:

Wisborough Green, Sussex
married 25 September 1827
James Valler, widower
ann Wood, spinster both of this parish, by banns
Witnesses, Geo Trigg, Amelia Laker

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« Reply #9 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:10 UTC (UK) »

Now this is intriguing!

Bearing in mind census return Valda found with William born Wisborough Green found the following:

Wisborough Green, Sussex
married 25 September 1827
James Valler, widower
ann Wood, spinster both of this parish, by banns
Witnesses, Geo Trigg, Amelia Laker

Kerry

hmmmmm the plot thickens....

The difficulty of course is I'm looking for this information for someone else, so I think the best I can do is take every single scrap of info that you wonderful people can offer and present it to him when I see him next and maybe he can make some sense of it...

So please offer anything you think may be relevant...

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« Reply #10 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:12 UTC (UK) »

Two marriages in Surrey, if he is born in Dunsfold as 1851 suggests:

1817 Albury - Mary Hatfield
or
1821 Godalming - Ann Denyer

I'm not that sure how close either of them are to Dunsfold

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« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:20 UTC (UK) »

Registration of death of the James Valler in 1851 census:

James Valler
March 1853
District Steyning (which covered Hove)
Volume 2b
page 161

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« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:25 UTC (UK) »

WALTER VOLLER  
Christening:  09 JUN 1822   Wisborough Green, Sussex
Father:  JAMES VOLLER  
Mother:  HANNAH  

EMILY VOLLER  
Christening:  13 MAR 1825   Wisborough Green, Sussex
Father:  JAMES VOLLER  
Mother:  HANNAH  

WILLIAM VOLLER  
Christening:  27 JAN 1828   Wisborough Green, Sussex
Father:  JAMES VOLLER
Mother:  HANNAH  

DERCEY VALLER  
Christening:  27 JAN 1828   Wisborough Green, Sussex
Father:  JAMES VALLER  
Mother:  ANN  

1851 census HO107 1649 folio 131
Wisborough Green  Sussex
Ann Woods  77 Wisboro Green, Sussex, Head Widow Carpenter's wife  
Robert Woods 39  Wisboro Green, Sussex, Son Carpenter's son
Darcy Voller 22 Wisboro Green, Sussex, Grandson Carpenter

Darcy was in Wisborough on the 1841 census close to his grandparents but not with his parents.

ANN WOOD  
JAMES VALLER  
Marriage:  25 SEP 1827   Wisborough Green, Sussex

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« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:29 UTC (UK) »

Another marriage that fits with Valda's post

Kirdford, Sussex
4 June 1811
James Valler
Hannah Myles
both of this parish, by banns

witness James Hillyer and John Valler

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« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 May 07 17:52 UTC (UK) »

1881 census RG11 1093 folio 62
33 Spring Street Brighton  Sussex   
William Valler 52 Brighton, Sussex, Head Married House painter
Cathn Ann Valler 49 Brighton, Sussex,  Wife Married

Deaths Sep 1888   
Valler  Catherine Ann  58  Brighton  2b 139

Deaths Dec 1893   
Valler  William  67  Brighton  2b 162

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