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Comosus
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I've gone back 8 generations to Ann Lineker born 1755 in East Retford. On the male line I can go back 7 generations to John Shaw born 1788, but he was from Saddleworth, which is full of Shaws and so I'm not entirely sure which is the right birth.
Finding Ann's birth was a little tricky because she married as Ann Lilliker. However I can't find a marriage for her father so I'm not sure if I'm able to go back any further, but we'll see.
Andrew
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Leeds - HOLMES (also at Boston Spa, Thorp Arch), SCHOLEY/SCOREY/SCHORAH (also at Stanley, Wakefield), TURVEY (also at Birmingham), WARD, WHITE, WOODHEAD (also at Halton, Whitkirk, Templenewsam). Dewbury - CRAWSHAW, GLEDHILL, SPEIGHT Great Horton - RAMSDEN, SHACKLETON, WOOLER Woolsthorpe by Belvoir - SMITH Barrowby and South Stoke, Lincolnshire - PARKER Derby and Newhall - STREET Census information Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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XPhile2868
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It is annoying when sites like FamilySearch don't give maiden names but married names and when you order marriage certificates but only mentions the father.
Without the women in the tree, the other half wouldn't exist. Personally, I hate not knoiwng who the mother is because it covers a whole new branch and makes the woman seem less important.
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Smith (Lancashire), McKenna (Ireland/Liverpool/Leyland), Maynard (Hertfordshire/London/Preston), Ricketts (Gloucestershire/Wigan/Preston), Scowcroft (Preston), Harling (N. Yorkshire/Lancashire), Willis (Preston), Clegg (Manchester/Preston), Dodd (Wigan/Cheshire), Alston (Lancashire), Hulks (Hertfordshire), Nicholson (Co Mayo, Ireland/Lancashire), Brown (Co Tipperary, Ireland/Lancashire), Wilson (Kendal) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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adee7
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Hi Stephen,
I agree wholeheartedly. I have been searching for a long time to find the name of one of my great-great grandmothers. So far, the only thing found is her first name, not only in Family Search and Rootsweb, etc. but also in stories about the family in their hometown.
The search continues.
Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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Bill749
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Hi Kathleen
Were you able to find information about her family and her story?
I have traced her family back to her grandparents' marriage in 1784, but I haven't got a lot on that line. I know nothing of her life between her birth/baptism in 1838 and her marriage in 1860, beyond the fact that they lived in Commercial Quay. I have a photo of the happy couple in their autumn years, but all I know of her is what children she had, where they lived, and the fact that, as the wife of a master mariner on the North Sea route, she would have seen little of her husband for weeks on end! I haven't bothered to get her death certificate, so all I know is that she died "peacefully, after a short illness" in her 72nd year. His story, on the other hand, runs to 7 A4 pages!
Bill
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Banks, Beer, Bowes, Castle, Cloak, Coachworth, Dixon, Farr, Golder, Graves, Hicks, Hogbin, Holmans, Marsh, Mummery, Nutting, Pierce, Rouse, Sawyer, Sharp, Snell, Willis: mostly in East Kent. Ey, Sawyer: London Evans: Ystradgynlais, Wales Snell: Snettisham, Norfolk Knight, Burgess, Ellis: Hampshire Purdy: Ireland/Canada/Durham/Pennsylvania McCann: Ireland Morrow: Pennsylvania Sparnon: any Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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adee7
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Rancegal,
Some folks couldn't understand why I thought that the introduction of 'the wife' was not appropriate but soon learned when I referred to 'the husband'.
RonnieG,
Whenever possible, as the search continues, I follow the father's and the mother's line.
Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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XPhile2868
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I don't do 'the wife'! To his credit, my husband has never referred to me as 'the wife', and I see red if anyone else does it. Years ago we had a friend who was an American civilian working on an airbase. He used to use that expression, but not to me, because I used to say 'who?'. 'My wife' is just about acceptable, but never never never 'the wife'! 
I hate those sayings ("the wife", "her indoors"). If I was married, I owould actually say her name, not act as if she was a part of the furniture.
Stephen
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Smith (Lancashire), McKenna (Ireland/Liverpool/Leyland), Maynard (Hertfordshire/London/Preston), Ricketts (Gloucestershire/Wigan/Preston), Scowcroft (Preston), Harling (N. Yorkshire/Lancashire), Willis (Preston), Clegg (Manchester/Preston), Dodd (Wigan/Cheshire), Alston (Lancashire), Hulks (Hertfordshire), Nicholson (Co Mayo, Ireland/Lancashire), Brown (Co Tipperary, Ireland/Lancashire), Wilson (Kendal) Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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dennford
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I don't do 'the wife'! To his credit, my husband has never referred to me as 'the wife', and I see red if anyone else does it. Years ago we had a friend who was an American civilian working on an airbase. He used to use that expression, but not to me, because I used to say 'who?'. 'My wife' is just about acceptable, but never never never 'the wife'!
How do you feel about "The boss" as I often call my wife - thats when I don't call her by her real name.
Denn
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Ford, Baines, Dixon, Platts, Peat, Proctor, Rotherforth, Dakin/Daykin, Sales, Beech, Hall, Parkin, Nightingale. ----- Harthill, Waleswood, Woodhouse-mill, Whitwell
South Yorkshire/Derbyshire/Nottinghamshire
Torremocha, Candog, Ramos, Reyes, Rodrigueus
-------Philippines --- Bohol
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adee7
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Hi Denn,
I'm assuming (correctly) that that is a joke you share.
The fellow I mentioned was not joking. In fact, for as long as we knew him, that's what he called her. Her name was Helen, but I don't think he mentioned that at any time when he talked about her.
Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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MarieC
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I agree wholeheartedly with you all!
I don't think we should blame Familysearch, though - they just transcribe what is in the parish registers for their extracted indexes, and women's maiden names are rarely mentioned there, particularly baptisms and burials.
Having said all that, in most cases I have got my female lines as far back as my male lines. There are non-gender issues in some of these lines which are blocking me, including Roman Catholicism and being very lowly working class in London. But there are some lines where, yes, only the boys get a mention. Very frustrating!
MarieC
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adee7
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Hi,
No, we mustn't blame the messengers who are clearly showing how many women were seen as inconsequential
in family records.
As I search for information regarding the lives of my great-grandparents and their children who lived in Barracks, I posted a message on the Armed Forces Board and received the following address:
http://www.ssafa.org.uk/HistoryDetailed.html in which a distinguished admiral stated that there was, in his mind, "no such useless appendage or encumbrance as a sailor's wife". !!!
Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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MarieC
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Good gracious, Kathleen!!  I could say many things - but I won't!
MarieC
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Martins in London and Wales, Lockwoods in Yorkshire, Hartleys in London, Lichfield and Brighton, Hubands and Smiths in Ireland, Bentleys in London and Yorkshire, Denhams in Somerset, Scoles in London, Meyers in London, Cooks in Northumberland
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