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Re: Hartley Wespall Parish Records
« Reply #15 on: Monday 03 September 07 15:04 BST (UK) »

You think you are losing it - my maths just failed big time, didn't it!  Embarrassed  Of course he would be 26 or so.

I've no idea if this is relevant, but I'll give you the information anyway.  I found a baptism for a child in Stratfield Turgis in 1825:

Edward Henslow bapt 16 Jan 1825, parents Thomas & Harriet Henslow

I can't find a marriage for the pair anywhere.

There are also several more Henslow baptisms where the mother is recorded as Harriet, married woman and occasionally the child is described bastard.  These are Charles, Caroline, Elizabeth, Francis and Eliza.  A further two are in Heckfield with an alias Clements.

Just something else to consider!

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« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 September 07 21:04 BST (UK) »

Strewth..i've only been doing this research business for around 19 months but already i count names to send me to sleep as opposed to sheep Grin
If that was my Thomas in your last post he certaintly didn't get much sleep,that would make 13 at last count,perhaps Harriet was his 'bit on the side'.Joking apart the Clements name is quite interesting, as originally i was looking at his possible mothers maiden name as being Clements.Thank you and like you said something else to consider.

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Re: Hartley Wespall Parish Records
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 06 September 07 20:51 BST (UK) »

Just by chance while reading another thread i came upon another possible place of birth for Thomas..the place is Hawley....it is relatively near Hartley Wespall and could have been mistranscribed wrongly..would sks be able to look up the baptism records for Hawley around 1795 if they exist that is..would be most appreciative.

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« Reply #18 on: Thursday 06 September 07 22:08 BST (UK) »

Hawley did not become a separate parish until 1838.  You would need Yateley parish registers.

I've just checked the transcription - nothing that even remotely resembles Hensler/Hansler etc.  Sorry  Sad

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« Reply #19 on: Friday 07 September 07 11:28 BST (UK) »

Blast Sad...thanks Nell....well it was worth a try,i will get him eventually Huh Roll Eyes

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 09 September 07 12:43 BST (UK) »

Hi Nell...just been looking at the 1841 census for Shalfleet district 3 Newbridge IOW,and now thinking i've been looking in the wrong place for Thomas's birthplace/baptism...on the returns it says he was born in the county,under Hensler,i don't really know the island that even though it was my neighbour for 47 odd years..is there a place on the island similar to Hartley do you know?Another desparate go at finding his baptism Huh

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 09 September 07 12:54 BST (UK) »

Unfortunately born in county on an Isle of Wight return still means Hampshire.  There are no ancient parishes which begin "H" - and I don't know of anywhere on the island with a name like it.

Keep clutching at those straws  Wink

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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 09 September 07 13:09 BST (UK) »



Keep clutching at those straws Wink

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I seem to be drawing the short one everytime at moment  AngryCry,thank you once again,up and at it once more Huh Grin.I'll not let him beat me(hopefully) Grin.Good fun this research lark innit Wink

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Re: Hartley Wespall Parish Records
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 11 September 07 01:11 BST (UK) »

Extracts from Alverstoke PRs:

Marriage No 234 06 Jan 1821
Thomas HENSLOR (x)
Harriot VAUGHN (sgd) both otp [no marital status recorded]
Witnesses:  John SMITH (x);  Joseph GEAR (sgd) [a regular]

Baptism No 177 03 Jun 1821
Thomas James son of Thomas & Harriet HANSLER of Monckton Fort born Mar 19 1821.  Father's occupation Royal Marine Artillery

See also http://palmerstonforts.org.uk/pdf/monk.pdf
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 11 September 07 13:12 BST (UK) »

Hi deejay..many thanks for that info,it's quite interesting the fact about Thomas' occupation being Royal Marine Artillery...in 1841 census he is down as an Ag Lab,but in '51 he was a Greenwich Pensioner and '61 a Royal Marine Pensioner,he also had a son called Thomas with a date of birth of 1832 so the dates of that son don't match up,still interesting though,unless they are half brothers(i think),there is also a death for Thomas Hansley,Sept 1861 in Alverstoke(that poss link again).
Off to try and find a birth/baptism for a Henslor in the Gosport area.Thank you once again.
Off track a bit..Thomas Henslow m Kezia Urry 21/4/1851 where.....yep Alverstoke Huh

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« Reply #25 on: Monday 24 September 07 14:07 BST (UK) »

Just to confuse things a bit more i've found another 3 "Hartley's"..one near Cranbrook and one near Moepham in Kent and one near Brough in Cumberland Roll Eyes Huh Huh Cry

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 24 September 07 21:17 BST (UK) »

Yup, the place name is supposed to give rise to the surname.  There are lots of Hartley people in Lancashire, Cheshire and Yorkshire ( one particularly famous one is the David Hartley, an 18th century coiner who was hanged in 1770), a fair few in Kent and Cumberland.

Someone said it meant (I think) the place or clearing where the deer are - since there are Hartleys in many areas, perhaps that is true!

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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 25 September 07 12:21 BST (UK) »

Just to confuse things a bit more i've found another 3 "Hartley's"..one near Cranbrook and one near Moepham in Kent and one near Brough in Cumberland Roll Eyes Huh Huh Cry

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Saying that i think i'm looking for something that really isn't there,the 1861 census definately says born in Hartley,Hampshire...though i did find a baptism in Hartley,Kent on 16/2/1817 of a Thomas son of Thomas and Harriet,problem is the surname was Holland.....why did i put that up,just confuses me even more Huh Roll Eyes

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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 26 September 07 10:49 BST (UK) »

Ok this is my last go at this Hartley problem..have been trying to find a Hartley Mauditt on my road maps,couldn't find a thing(must be such a tiny village),so googled maps and found out it is south east of Alton so in the area i am concentrating on.Thing is, does it have its own parish records or do they come under another parish Undecided.
Failing this(clutching at them straws again)would it be more prudent to try and trace forward instead of back,i'm looking at possible parentage as being Thomas and Sarah(nee Clements) Hansler/Hensler who were married in1790 in Hartley Wespall,just to see if there are any baptisms for any of their children(if they had any that is)to see if it may throw up any solutions,do you understand that cos i don't,i've lost the plot,or has that already been mentioned,off down the road now to find my marbles  Grin

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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 26 September 07 12:57 BST (UK) »

Hartley Mauditt registers are on the LDS site and you can check them on Hugh Wallis's site.  Don't enter a name in the search facility and you can wade through the lists, so that you can spot variations, if applicable. 
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