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Topic: Christian Morris- where in Aberdour? (Read 1062 times)
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jenc
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Can anyone help? Found marriage cert. on SP. John Keith and Christian Morris 1855 in Auchtertool -
John Keith, blacksmith aged 22, born Craigie, 20/01/1833, reg. Parish of Leuchars
Christian Morris, dom servant, aged 28 born Bervesky? (looks like that, ::)obviously not) 24/08/1826 reg. Parish of Aberdour.
Problem is, can't find trace of birth of Christian on SP. Her parents were Robert Morris and and Christian Kinnell, married (I think) 18/07/1817 Aberdour.
Also having great problems trying to trace these parents too.
Any help would be gratefully appreciated.  Jenc
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Forfar - Adam Grindlay Easson Fyffe Livestone Wilson Fairweather Boath
Fife - Berry Brown Keith Kirkcaldy Walton Johnstone Gourlay Robb Robertson Pattie Stevenson Taylor
Glasgow - Fitzgerald, Campbell, McInnis, Sheriff, (Smith, Chambers.) maybe Ireland
Angus - Saunders, McGregor Richardson Moore.
Inverness-shire - McLean (I hope)
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Jenc
IGI only have submitted entry for a child to Robert Morris and Christian Kinnell:
JANET MORRIS Birth: About 1829 Aberdower, , Fife, Scotland
Children's births may not have been registered or OPRs may not have survived. Also, the family may not have belonged to Established Church of Scotland (Presbyterian) which fundamentally is what the OPR entries cover.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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Jenc
The ages seem out, you would have to check the original, but the names are interesting. Everyone showing as born in Aberdour:
Alexander Kennell 67, Annuitant
Christian Kennell 33, daughter, Field Labourer
Christian Morris 10, granddaughter
William Adamson 14, grandson, field lab.
Margaret Fraser 5, granddaughter
Address: Lady Bridge, Aberdour
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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MonicaLesl
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This one fits better in 1851 including address which is a close match to Christian's MC in 1855:
Robert Morris 59, labourer
Christina Morris 66
Christina Morris 25
Address: Beaverkay, Aberdour
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire. Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll. Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire. Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan. McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland. Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland. ..........and lots of Spanish name interests........ Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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jenc
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Hi Monica
These names from 1951 certainly seem to be the family, also the place name Beaverkay! I was stumped on that one.
Don't know if it's significant but the MC from 1955 shows the place of marriage as the Established Church in Auchtertool, though I suppose it could have been John Keith's church as I have been able to trace this family quite far back. It was fortunate they were married in 1955, as it gave me lots of info on their parents too. From this I learned that John's mother Barbara nee Scott, had been married before to a James Heron in Leuchars 1816 before she married William Keith in Leuchars 1825.  This was a surprise and i'm now trying to find out if she had any children from that union. Once again Monica thank you for putting me on the right track  Jenc
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Kincardineshire - Beattie Dickson Tavendale Donaldson Whyte Wishart
Forfar - Adam Grindlay Easson Fyffe Livestone Wilson Fairweather Boath
Fife - Berry Brown Keith Kirkcaldy Walton Johnstone Gourlay Robb Robertson Pattie Stevenson Taylor
Glasgow - Fitzgerald, Campbell, McInnis, Sheriff, (Smith, Chambers.) maybe Ireland
Angus - Saunders, McGregor Richardson Moore.
Inverness-shire - McLean (I hope)
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nzerrol
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Hi Jenc
My 1-y-o son (based in NZ) is currently doing a genealogy project for the start of his school year, which led me to trace back through the generations. His great-gm, Isabella Keith b. 1891 married Alexander Dow b. 1892. She was the dau of William Keith, blacksmith, Craigie and Jean Wilson.
I'd love to hear more abotu this side fo the family
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JAP
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Don't know if it's significant but the MC from 1955 shows the place of marriage as the Established Church in Auchtertool, though I suppose it could have been John Keith's church ...
Jenc, It seems unlikely that this would have been John's church? As far as I can determine, John was from the parish of Leuchars - which is way over on the other side of Fife. Incidentally, from the IGI, the marriage was registered in Leuchars.
A convenient coloured map of Fife parishes can be found at:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/genieoz_fife/
The Auchtertool church may well, however, have been Christian/Christina's local church.
From what I can work out (and I could be wrong!), it seems that Beverkae (which seems to be the usual spelling) was in the very north of the parish of Aberdour - much closer to the village of Auchtertool in the parish of Auchtertool (and also close to Cowdenbeath in the parish of Beath) than (say) to the village of Aberdour.
The 1861 Directory for Aberdour, Fife (see the Fife Family History site) has the following entry under Farmers:
"Liddle, James, Beverkae, (resides in Auchtertool)"
If you Google for Beverkae, most of the references seem to be connected to a chemical works and to the Beverkae roundabout.
I haven't found the word Beverkae (or similar) on a map (current or old) but I suspect, if you search for Pilkham Hills on a site like streetmap uk, that the Beverkae roundabout is the roundabout just slightly SW of the words Pilkham Hills.
If you pan eastwards, you will see how close it is to Auchtertool.
And if you pan northwards, you will see how close it is to Cowdenbeath.
JAP
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jenc
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Hi Jap
I had a wee run to Fife last year, to try to find Beaverkae to no avail, but found the little hamlet of Puddledub where Christian's father Robert died in 1867, his occupation was given as drainer, though on other documents he appears to be a toll keeper.
I have traced the Morris/Morrice family back to John Morrice b. c1680 Beath, then 1757 in Dunfermline, Robert was born in 1793 Aberdour, so the family seem to be in that area from then on.
It's a lovely part of Fife, worth a visit. Many thanks for the info.
Jenc
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Kincardineshire - Beattie Dickson Tavendale Donaldson Whyte Wishart
Forfar - Adam Grindlay Easson Fyffe Livestone Wilson Fairweather Boath
Fife - Berry Brown Keith Kirkcaldy Walton Johnstone Gourlay Robb Robertson Pattie Stevenson Taylor
Glasgow - Fitzgerald, Campbell, McInnis, Sheriff, (Smith, Chambers.) maybe Ireland
Angus - Saunders, McGregor Richardson Moore.
Inverness-shire - McLean (I hope)
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JAP
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Hi jenc,
A Google for Beverkae (not Beaverkae i.e. no 'a') finds many mentions for the roundabout and the chemical works.
Puddledub is not far from the place I identified as the Beverkae roundabout. About 2km SE of Pilkham Hills (which is where I think the Beverkae roundabout is).
When I visited Fife with my daughter (she was then living in Edinburgh) we did not know that her paternal ancestors came from Aberdour and Dalgety.
Regards,
JAP
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nzerrol
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Hi Jenc
Can't read your personal message since I think need to add 2 more posts before I can access this part of the site
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nzerrol
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Hi again Jenc - hopefully this message will let me access yours!
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weemantam
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Right then..., after discovering one of my relatives also living in Beverkae - Census noting it as being Beaverkay also- (and thereafter finding this thread, I did a wee bit searching on the nls site and (with a bit of guidance from JAP) managed to trace the original building. It looks like it was basically a farm house or perhaps a lodging for farm hands. Assuming I don't complete rs this up I have attached images of the maps old and new.
Hope this is of interest.
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Fife esp Burntisland, Dysart, Lochore, Cowdenbeath, Dalgety
Gibb, Armour, Simpson, Thayne, McTrusty, Brennan, Bird, Thomson
Ewens, Dickson, Banks, Davidson, Howie, McLaren, Adamson
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should be 1851 and 1855. OOPS. Regards Jenc
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