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redditch local knowledge
« on: Tuesday 29 May 07 14:29 BST (UK) »

hi all
im planning a trip to redditch,to search the old papers and take photos of address,s why my rellies lived im hoping someone could help me with some local knowledge
2 of my greatgrand mothers brothers in the first world war
frederick cecil cottrill and john basil cottrill
both are comemerated on the memorial at mount carmel church
and basil is listed on a second one at the parish hall , were is the parishhall and would i be able to see it

my great grand father worked for terry and sons spring works
were was this building and is it still standing
he joined the rfa in 1914 aged 16 were would he have gone to
join up ,the town hall?

any help would be great thanks
gig Grin
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 June 07 01:45 BST (UK) »

Re: Mount Carmel Church & its records:

http://www.rc.net/uk/birmingham-uk/mountcarmel/

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/sidocs.asp?SIR=O96213

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/archon/searches/locresult_details.asp?LR=1480


Address:
Our Lady Of Mount Carmel R C Church
Beoley Rd West
Redditch, B98 8LT
01527 63096

Look up this postcode on www.streetmap.co.uk


Records:

Our Lady of Mount Carmel Roman Catholic parish, Redditch
Redditch, Worcestershire
1834-1982: registers and misc papers
Birmingham Archdiocesan Archives
http://www.a2a.org.uk/html/1480-p235.htm

Held at:
Cathedral House
St Chads Queensway
Birmingham
B4 6EU
England

Tel: 0121 230 6252
Fax: 0121 230 6279


The first item on this page is Our Lady Of Mount Carmel:

http://www.ommer.info/content_church.htm
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 June 07 02:12 BST (UK) »

Re Terry's:


Found this on Amazon:
Redditch Remembered
DVD ~ Allan Foxall

'Synopsis:
Until about 1900, although Redditch was internationally renowned for needle making and the associated fishing tackle industry, it was still a small country town. Then it spawned famous companies such as Herbert Terry & Sons spring makers and the Royal Enfield Cycle and Motor Cycle Company.'


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Redditch-Remembered-Allan-Foxall/dp/1859835368

There is one for sale on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Redditch-Remembered-local-history-DVD_W0QQitemZ160124336151QQcmdZViewItem

Anglepoise

Anglepoise  is a truly iconic British lamp and we are so proud to have this lamp featured on our site. The story of how the lamp was created is fascinating.

Herbert Terry, the founder of Herbert Terry & Sons began a winding spring business in a terraced house in Redditch in the early 1900s which very quickly progressed to Terry acquiring its first premises. In 1932 George Carwardine, an automotive engineer by trade, began developing a light which involved the balancing of an incandescent light bulb in three planes of movement.


http://www.icone.co.uk/anglepoise

And this:
Roberts, John A. (Compiled by) - Spring Design and Calculations. Redditch: Herbert Terry & Sons, 9th. edn. 1958,
http://www.savonabooks.free-online.co.uk/cat53pt28.htm


Also on ebay "Herbert Terry & Sons, Redditch, England" Anglepoise lamps:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Anglepoise-Wall-Lamp-Herbert-Terry-light_W0QQitemZ220119130105QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1405QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-HERBERT-TERRY-ANGLEPOISE-LAMP_W0QQitemZ260125218418QQcmdZViewItem


'Herbert Terry the founder of the spring business started winding springs at home, a terraced house in Peakman Street, Redditch, later moving to a workshop 400 yards away. His son Charles introduced hose clips and the Terry bicycle saddle and it was he who signed the contract with George Carwardine, who originated from Bath.'

http://www.glias.org.uk/news/219news.html


'If you are unable to purchase a hand brake you may easily make one as shown in the sketches. Bowden cables are used for the foot brake, the accelerator, and clutch. The gear change, of course, must be a rod, and a guide plate should be attached to the side member as shown in one of the sketches. The. rear suspension springs may conveniently consist of very strong motor-cycle front-fork springs, although Messrs. Herbert Terry & Sons, of Redditch, are supplying special springs for the job. '

http://www.bright.org.uk/pageF5.htm

'Established in 1855, Herbert Terry & Sons had a long record of industrial
achievement in the field of springs and industrial fasteners, where the
Terry name became known and respected on a worldwide basis.
Today, Terry operates from a modern industrial base in Redditch offering a
comprehensive range of products for use in industry, hardware, sanitary,
automotive, marine and domestic environments. Terry, since October
1999, is part of the Swedish ABA group of companies an internationally
leading firm in the fields of hose and pipe clamps and connectors. '


http://www.abagroup.com/upload/pdf/Terry%20050919.pdf


Also mentioned here:
http://www.designmuseum.org/design/anglepoise
http://www.kettererkunst.com/bio/george-carwardine-1887.shtml
http://www.george-carwardine.com/index.shtml
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4024609.html

Peakman Street:

http://uk.local.yahoo.com/Worcestershire/Redditch/Public_Houses/1097558002-e-33035.html
http://www.ne-worcs.ac.uk/index.php?tb=0&pg=1
http://www.redditchveggies.makessense.co.uk/locations/1196.html
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 June 07 02:25 BST (UK) »

Re RAF:

This might be useful:
History Of The RAF DVD
http://dvd.ciao.co.uk/History_Of_The_RAF_DVD__5913399

Quote from Review
'With the outbreak of the Great War in 1914 it was soon realised that Air Power would play an important and desicive part in Conflicts .

From the Start of the Service with the Royal Flying Corps in 1914 to the Development of the Royal Air force up to the Modern Aircraft and Systems of Today (Well, up to when the Panavia Tornado was new and the Eurofighter wasn't even conceived) , This DVD will try to take you through it all.'


http://dvd.ciao.co.uk/History_Of_The_RAF_DVD__Review_5561174


Another Redditch man who joined, so might help:

'Victor Canadine (1894-1959). Victor Clarence. Known as Joseph or Joe. ...
Joe joined the Royal Flying Corps as an Engineer in the First World War.
'

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/drive/acs34/index1116.htm

Royal Flying Corps - the "Redditch" Company mentioned here, but don't know if refers to Redditch itself:
http://www.1cha.co.uk/5.html
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 June 07 11:24 BST (UK) »

hello trica 2
thank you for your reply and thank you for all the information and links, thats certainly given alot to look into
i went to redditch last week i found some interesting things and took a few photos but didnt find all i wanted as is the norm
with these things but im planning my next trip and im sure ill find even more now thank you trica2
best wishes gig
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« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 June 07 12:40 BST (UK) »

Good luck!  Smiley
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 17:15 BST (UK) »

Hi
Just to say the Terry Borthers built a large house, now known as the Southcrest Hotel at the back of Reddicth.
They may have some info? From childhood memories (used to go there for special occasions!) they had some old photos etc...

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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 17:53 BST (UK) »

hi lally17
thanks for that ill hunt it down the next time i go to redditch
welcome to rootschat i hope you find all you seek
best wishes gig
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 18:01 BST (UK) »

Hi there and thanks!

Heres the URL...now a quality hotel, but you can get the gist of the history of the place from the pictures!

http://www.choicehotelseurope.com/hotels/hotel?hotel=GB646

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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 15 August 07 18:09 BST (UK) »

thanks lally ive made a note of it ,it looks very posh Grin
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #10 on: Friday 17 August 07 19:52 BST (UK) »

Hi Gig,

Check out Redditch library, on the Green by St. Stephen's Church.  Plenty of local history books, including some of postcards/photographs.

Whilst you're there ask to the "Redditch and District Needle Maker's Almanac", sort of directory.  I think from about 1886 to 1936.

Get a Street Map of Redditch, before you go.  Place is covered in roundabouts, very easy to come out in the wrong place.  If they were involved in needles at all, visit The Forge Mill Museum.

Good luck

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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 18 August 07 10:35 BST (UK) »

hi mike
thank you for your reply and advice
i went to the library on the green on my last visit and searched the old copies of the redditch advetiser i hit gold there as i found two obituarys for my gg gramas brothers killed in ww1 one of which finally confirmed id got the right man after quite a few years of searching,i will certainly look at the needle makers almanac as they were needle manufacters.
Grin ive found out about the roundabouts in redditch in person
on my 2nd trip i got completly lost ,going round and round finally
losing my temper and pulling in to b,q carpark after regaining my sanity  i asked a man who was loading his car ,if he knew were the old cemetry was and could i walk it from here ,
he said  follow me in your car and ill drive past it for you
which he did ,i would never have found it other wise
ive always found people in redditch extremly friendly and helpful
another time i asked a cleaner in the church were the other cemetry was , she said its a good ten minute walk ,give me a minute to finish an ill drive you down, amazing,
ive not come across the forge mill before ,looks very interesting
thank you for your help and advice mike
best regards gig
ps does your cotterils have any links in studley
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Re: redditch local knowledge
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 19 August 07 01:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Gig,

Sorry don't know where COTTERILs are from?  Possibly Upton

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