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Topic: This is a challenge!! Help me find my grandad Hardy!! (Read 995 times)
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JeannieR
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Carol8353
Yes , Albert snr did remarry. Caroline , Alberts mother died in 1884 , aged 36. Albert married Rose Wild in 1885, and went on to have further children.
Going back to my original question.......If this Albert Edward Hardy is not mine !!! I have researched his family back to the late 1700's , and was planning my holidays this year in Hampshire.....
Another thing everyone, this guy on Genes reunited, had no other names from this family on his list No Caroline , No Albert snr (born 1844) and he has not been in touch , as I asked him , with details of the marriage of his grandparents....or any other proof
Jeannie
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carol8353
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Jeannie
You have positive proof that your Albert's dad was a railway man from your grandparents marr cert- this is the only Albert Hardy who is 
With a son also called Albert Edward- the first place to find that out is LDS 1881 site,which is what Mobo did for you and subsequently that is the obvious family we have all been chasing through the years.
I think you need to email this GR chap and ask him what jobs his lot did and what other positive info he has.It couldn't be that he is chasing the same Albert senior could it? Maybe he's a grandson of Frederick or one of the three half siblings of your grandad Albert?
Just a thought........and on that note I'm off to bed
All the best
Carol
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRogers, Rapkin, Phillips - Hammersmith/Fulham/Paddington areas Worth Bailey, Heapy, Burgess. All Macclesfield Cheshire Mockridge,West Monkton Somerset Jenner,Clapham Surrey Kendrick,Liverpool Wensley,Somerset Coleman and Mc Namara from Ennis, Co Clare, Ireland Blake and Maloney from Kilbaha Co Clare, Ireland |
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casalguidi
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Hi Jeannie
So perhaps you need to find out what happened to the mineral water manager  Did he leave his family in Hampshire & move up to Liverpool and pretend to be a bachelor or did he remain with his family in Hampshire ie. street directories, electoral registers, death certificate, burial etc. etc.
Casalguidi
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JeannieR
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Thank you every one......
I am so very grateful to you all.
Genealogy , as we know , is very frustrating at times. It is just so lovely to be able to run things past other people, and get a different
point of view .
I have two ways to go now a) Get in touch with the guy on GR and ask him for more info and b) follow Hackstaples advice and try and find out from the Guildhall more information about his sea records.
Casulguidi
Just read your last posting.
I have thought about all that, but trying to be optimistic. From what I have heard about Albert, he was a lovely man...but he died when my mum was
4 years old, she may only have been remembering good times.....
This Albert Edward Hardy The manager at mineral works, married a
Caroline J Knell .........I have searched for their marriage , with no luck.
Their eldest child was 5 in 1901 , I have searched for the preceeding 6 years
and have not found them . Caroline was from Canterbury .
Caroline J Knell , was the name given to me my David from GR.
I would send for the certificate myself , if I could find details.....just to get
the grooms fathers name...
Jeannie
Any further ideas are most welcome
JeannieR
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carol8353
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Hi Jeannie,
Yes this Caroline is a mystery isn't she I too have been searching for her.
I have found her at home in Canterbury with her family in 1871,and as a servant in 1881,born 1865 and not later as the 1901 would lead you to believe.
But by 1891 she has disappeared.I too have searched for their marriage and gone up to the end of 1896,little Ethel was born in Dec 1895 in Southwark.
I suppose there's always the possibility that they never did marry-and just lved in sin 
Or of course have you ever thought that these Albert's might be one and the same person.....or perhaps they are just cousins.
Maybe someone else can come up with more suggestions today.
By the way how did the GR chap know 'his' Albert 'married' Caroline Knell- has he found a cert- if so would he mind sharing the info with the rest of us
All the best
Carol
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casalguidi
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It doesn't help much (if at all) but a C KNELL, servant age 21 born Canterbury was a vegetable maid at The Chino Hotel, Spa Road, Christchurch, Hants in 1891
Rg12/902 folio 83 page 30
Best wishes
Casalguidi
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casalguidi
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It's always nice to hear of a "successful" outcome - thankyou for letting us know.
Casalguidi 
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Hackstaple
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Thanks for the advice and good luck.
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Southern or Southan [Hereford , Monmouthshire & Glos], Jenkins, Meredith and Morgan [Monmouthshire and Glos.], Murrill, Damary, Damry, Ray, Lawrence [all Middx. & London], Nethway from Kenn or Yatton. Also Riley and Lyons in South Africa and Riley from St. Helena. Any census information included in this post is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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JeannieR
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Hi There......
I can't tell you how thrilled I am !!
I still haven't found any evidence of Albert's marriage to Caroline, and boy,have I searched...so it is just possible that he never married her.......so was not a bigamist in the real sense......
I am sure, however, that I have the correct death certificate for Caroline...and that the poor lady was deserted.....It was recorded by a coroner, who possibly assumed that she was married...as a matter of interest her cause of death was "Heart failure, due to dilatation of the stomach from indigestion " Any ideas what the modern term would be?
As you all know, this was really my awful brick wall, I really didn't want to believe that my grandad could do this...but no matter how I tried, I could only come up with this one person, who could possibly be my ancester. As a genealogist, I feel complete !!
Regards to all
JeannieR
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