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Topic: Ineed advice on finding marriage certificate relating to AIRD and McCORD (Read 1447 times)
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woiiftm
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John Aird married Charlotte McCord sometime between 1836 and 1851, however I am unable to find any matching certificate on ScotlandsPeople.
I believe she emigrated to Australia after his death,( which I can't track), with some of her children, so, I'm also unable to get any information from her death certificate. Both born Ayrshire though known to be living in the Parish of St George in Glasgow at time of 1871 census.
To complicate matters I believe him to have had 3 wives, though from my results Charlotte and an Elizabeth appear to overlap!
Anyone got any advice on how to resolve any of this?
Believed to have married 1840-1850
Many Thanks
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tidybooks
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Hi woiiftm,
I have found a John Aird in 1851 census 40 yo b 1811 in Ayr, Ayrshire, he was a Mariner. His wife is Charlotte 30 b 1821 also born in Ayr. They have 3 children, Mary 16, William 14 and Alexander 1. At the time of the census, they were in Neptune Street & Court, Stranraer.
Could this be the family?
Tom
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Hi woiiftm,
Parents John Aird and Charlotte McCord family on IGI: -
Alexander McCord Aird b 28 May 1850 Glasgow d 14 Apr 1918 (submitted)
Thomas McCord Aird b 03 Aug 1856 Stranraer
Jane Agnes Aird b 11 Dec 1858 Stranraer
Davida Aird b 27 Mar 1861 Stranraer
John Alexander Aird b 24 Apr 1877 Govan (submitted)
Angus Aird b 16 Apr 1879 d 17 Sep 1900 (submitted)
IGI does not mention Mary and William the 2 oldest, this suggests that they are not Charlottes children, maybe to an earlier wife. Cannot find their marriage yet.
Tom
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On IGI,
John Aird married Mary Gibson 06 Dec 1840 Kirkinner, Wigtownshire
Child Margaret Gibson Aird b 01 May 1842 Wigtown
,also had the two children, Mary and William, either divorced or death of Mary Gibson. Then he married Charlotte prior to 1950 approx.
There was another John Aird marriage to Jean Gown on 06 May 1810 at Stoneykirk, Wigtownshire. This may have been John Aird parents.
Tom
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Hi Woiiftm,
I cannot find a marriage between John Aird and Charlotte McCord, is there any chance they were RC or one of the other non-established religions. The only 2 marriages for John Aird on IGI and Scotland Peoples website are below.
1 06/05/1810 AIRD JOHN JEAN GOWN/FR283 M Stoneykirk /WIGTOWN 898/ 0010 0275 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
2 06/12/1840 AIRD JOHN MARY GIBSON/FR364 M Kirkinner /WIGTOWN 889/ 0020 0193 VIEW (5 CREDITS) ORDER
I have found a John Aird in 1841 census at Gullines Court, Kirkinner, he has put down age as 25 but I think he is 30, 1841 they rounded down to nearest 5 years, and Mary is down as 20, only married previous December so no family yet.
Tom
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woiiftm
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Many thanks Tom,
Your entry mentioning the children and the Stranraer connection appears to be the correct family. I now have entry from 1871, 1861 and 1851 census.
Re your thoughts...Male side not R.C. don't know about McCord side.
If was "mixed" marriage how could I find marriage certificate as this certificate still eludes me?
1851....wife named as Charlotte
1861....wife named as Elizabeth doesn't add up!
1871....wife named as Charlotte
Think 1st wife a Mary Burnett married 19/6/1836 in Barony, this would account for 2 older children (can't find death certificate for Mary)
Thanks again
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woiiftm
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Hello Tom,
Havn't downloaded M.B. death cert yet, however do have marriage cert. Unfortunately only states.... John Aird, Blacksmith, Anderston & Mary Burnett residing there. No other info.
I have to admit I was considering the possibility of wrong John Aird but the families, names dates and places of birth all correspond!
Thanks again for your time
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Hi woiiftm,
The MC for Mary Burnett would be an OPR and would not tell much, but death certificate is after 1855 and may tell some info, as long as person registering death knew them.
Although some things are fitting in, there is so many overlaps, and some crucial info missing. I am still a bit mixed up yet.
Tom
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woiiftm
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Hello again,
Good of you to give your time.
Death cert tells she was a pauper who died in city poorhouse, usual residence 36 Annfield ? St .Only ref to John is to say he is deceased and was a blacksmith.
He continues to prove elusive, as does his marriage to Charlotte.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi woiiftm and Tom
I've been following this thread and it certainly gets confusing 
John Aird died in 1872 at Carrick St, where the family were shown living in 1871:
1872 AIRD JOHN 68 CLYDE GLASGOW CITY/LANARK 644/05 0366
Charlotte and John married on 8th December 1845 in Stranraer (from Davida's birth cert).
On the issue of the many wives of John, I think he probably only had two. Mary (still not sure what the surname was) and Charlotte. I think if you check the original 1861 census entry on SP you will probably find a very illegible writing of Charlotte (given she gave birth to Davida in March 1861 I'm pretty sure it will show as that!) that has been mistranscribed.
Sadly there is no reference to his first wife's name on his DC, only Charlotte's name. Quite often, previous spouses names are given in order of marriage but not in this case.
I don't think the Mary Burnett death in 1888 has anything to do with your John, who seems to show as a seaman in all his registrations (no refs. anywhere to blacksmith).
It might be worthwhile you trying to follow through with the children who show in 1851 (Mary 16 and William 14 b. Glasgow) to see whether you could find any marriage or death certs for them that may include their mother's name.
Regards.
Monica. 
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MonicaLesl
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Mary BENNETT as potential wife to your John Aird is looking more unlikely
This 1851 census entry might relate to the John Aird, blacksmith:
John Aird 35, iron forger, b. Newton, Ayrshire
Mary Aird 32, b. England
Mary Aird 13, b. Glasgow
Catherine Aird 8, b. Glasgow
Address: Main Road, Whitletts, Newton On Ayr
And in 1861:
John Aird 44, blacksmith, b. Newton
Mary Aird 42, Liverpool England
John Aird 8, b. glasgow
Lousia Aird 3, b. Glasgow
Address: 79 Garscube Rd, Milton, Glasgow
Daughter Lousia showing above to parents John Aird and Mary BURNETT:
LOUSIA BURNETT AIRD Birth: 12 MAY 1857 Clyde, Glasgow, Lanark, Scotland
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MonicaLesl
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I've also got  over the name Mary Gibson as John Aird's first wife. The OPR marriage that Tom found in 1840 between a John Aird and a Mary Gibson, shows a daughter MARGARET GIBSON AIRD Christening: 01 MAY 1842 Wigtown, Wigtown, Scotland. This 1861 entry might well relate to this family:
John Aird 41, Shoemaker (journeyman), b. Wigtown
Mary Aird 41, b. Whithorn
Margaret Aird 18, b. Wigtown
Edwin Aird 15
Jessie Aird 11
John Aird 9
William Aird 4
Address: North Side High Street, wigtown
A likely death entry for this Mary:
1898 GIBSON MARY AIRD F 79 WIGTOWN /WIGTOWN 901/00 0026
On the plus side , this looks like John Aird's mother's death entry. She is living with them in 1861 and looks to have died a few years later:
1865 AIRD MARGARET (Mother's maiden name) MCULLOCH (Other surnames) STEVEN 84 STRANRAER /WIGTOWN 899/00 0090
...So, having eliminated the two likely women we had in the spotlight as John's first wife, I must admit at present I haven't got a clue what her name was 
Off to bed, oooh so late!
Regards.
Monica 
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Hi Monica,
Well done again, I thought we had more than 1 John Aird, you have came with 3 now, well done.
Enjoy your sleep.
Tom
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