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Berlin-Bob
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SIT: Suggestion Box
« on: Sunday 13 March 05 13:30 UTC (UK) »

The RootsChat Surname Interests Table SIT

The Surname Interests Table is now officially "open for business"

We are still testing some aspects, you may still see test messages appearing.

To access the SIT go to the bottom of any RootsChat page, there you will see

        [Copyright] [Free RootsChat Webspace] [Your Surname Interests] [About Us]

Click there to log on !


This board is for your suggestions, on improving the Surname Interests Table (SIT).

As more and more RootsChatters enter their names, it will become more important to find good ways of sorting, searching and extracting information.

If you have any suggestions, read through these threads, to see if it has already been suggested, and then add to the discussion.

Not everything discussed here will be implemented, but any sensible, useful ideas have a good chance of being incorporated "by popular demand" into the SIT.
« Last Edit: Thursday 07 April 05 09:40 UTC (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 13 March 05 18:37 UTC (UK) »

Great Bob - worked a treat - no problems.

One thing - do you leave the page by closing down - no "Finished Entering" button ??

You've let yourself in for something here - I can see!!  Grin Grin

Cheers

Keith
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 13 March 05 20:35 UTC (UK) »

Bob,
The database stores upper & lower case variants of names in different locations, but when performing a search any combination of case will produce the same result...

ie searching for Smith, SMITH, or even sMiTh will return all combinations of the surname.

I've gotten into the habit of always putting ancestral surnames in CAPITALS - seems like I am in the minority in this trial database  Embarrassed

Could you modify the database to convert all surnames to the same format, and thus merging all combinations of the same name ?

Handy hint #1:
If you want to see ALL names in the database, possibly the quickest way is to search for each vowel ( A E I O U ) and perhaps the letter Y, one at a time.

1. Select (*) SHOW all entered surnames
2. type one vowel into the surname box
3. Select (*) within word
4. Click on [Submit]
Repeat for each other vowel ( and  Y )

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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 13 March 05 20:52 UTC (UK) »

If I select show all my surnames - when the result screen comes up - is there any way it could also show what other members have recorded the same surname in those results?
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Davies, Edwards, Evans, Griffiths, Hughes, James, Jones, Morgan, Nicholas, Powell, Prytherch, Rees, Williams in Glamorgan, Brecon, PEM, CMN & MGY

Biddle, Budd, Clark/e, Davis/Davies, Elliott, Emery, Harper, Harris, Lloyd, Parsons, Phillips, Pitt, Reed/Reid/Read/Rhead, Rogers, Scandrett, Smith, Tylor & Waldron in Staffs, Worcs, Hef, Cheshire, Shrops., Middlesex & Surrey.

Cooghan/Coogan/Cogan - Castleblaney, Co Monaghan

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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #4 on: Monday 14 March 05 08:22 UTC (UK) »

State of Play:
13.03.2005 - 13:38 (CET) the Surname Interest Table (SIT) was declared open
14.03.2005 - 09:10 (CET) 18:00   46 RootsChatters with 376  Surname interests in the table !

and the score is:
                                 Smith   3 : 4   Jones
                                 Evans  3 : 3   James


Jonathan,
there may not be a big launch, I think it's here to stay already.  Might as well start getting your names in now !

Pam,
Delete function is planned, but only when we transfer to RootsChat.com
Auto select: Add Huh  Not sure, I am trying to work out something along the lines of "stay at last-selected" which would probably be more useful.   ADDED: Done !

Keith,
just leave the page, there is no "formal " 'Goodbye, I'm off !'

SS from The Rhondda,
.... convert all surnames to the same format .... I'm working on some possibilities here.    ADDED: Done !

I like your tip for outputting.  Maybe others could add their ideas /wishes for outputs.

NigelG,
If I select show all my surnames - when the result screen comes up - is there any way it could also show what other members have recorded the same surname in those results?  Sounds good, I'll have a think about how ...

To all of you,
Thank you very much for the feedback, and your kind words. Makes me glad I did it.

Keep the suggestions coming !

Bob
« Last Edit: Tuesday 15 March 05 11:00 UTC (UK) by Berlin-Bob » Logged

Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #5 on: Monday 14 March 05 10:48 UTC (UK) »

 Undecided
HiYa
ok i've entered my interest but where do you look for the whole list of interests?sorry for being a bit slow in this field. I think it's a great idea keep it up
Regards John P.
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Berlin-Bob
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #6 on: Friday 18 March 05 16:13 UTC (UK) »

Hi All,

a new facility: 

        SHOW all with my Surname Interests

Click on this and "Submit".  You will then get a table of your surname interests, that also includes any other RootsChatters searching for these names !

Many thanks to NigelG for this suggestion !

Enjoy !
Bob

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« Last Edit: Tuesday 05 April 05 12:24 UTC (UK) by trystan » Logged

Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #7 on: Friday 18 March 05 16:43 UTC (UK) »

Bob

My thanks to both you and Nigel for this one!

Jill
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Jowett, Broadbent & Ellis in Leeds.
Perry, Hartshorn/e & Wilkes in Birmingham & Dudley. Walker and Dabill in Sheffield & Notts.
Farrar in Darlington.
Kidd & Taylor in Hartlepool & Teesside
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #8 on: Friday 18 March 05 16:50 UTC (UK) »

Hi Bob

Just tried entering a name because I have found them in a different area.  I get a message "already in the database", which is true.  What happens if I discover that my family have changed areas?  Will I eventually be able to amend the entry or add to the record?

Obviously not a priority, but I thought I would bring it up for discussion  Wink

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SOM: BIRD, BURT aka BROWN
HEF: BAUGH, LATHAM, CARTER, PRITCHARD
GLS: WEBB, WORKMAN, LATHAM, MALPUS
WIL: WEBB, SALTER
RAD: PRITCHARD, WILLIAMS
GLA: RYAN, KEARNEY, JONES, HARRY
MON: WEBB, MORGAN, WILLIAMS, JONES, BIRD
SCOTLAND: HASTINGS, CAMERON, KELSO, BUCHANAN, BETHUNE/ BEATON
IRELAND: RYAN (WATERFORD), KEARNEY (DUBLIN), BOYLE(DUNDALK)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #9 on: Friday 18 March 05 16:55 UTC (UK) »

Hi Arranroots,

that will be my next step:  DELETE and EDIT

If EDIT is tricky, then at least DELETE, and then you can at least re-enter with fresh data !

as the saying goes ..... watch this space !   Grin
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #10 on: Friday 18 March 05 18:48 UTC (UK) »

Gobsmacked  Shocked

You are a star - many thanks for this  Grin
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Davies, Edwards, Evans, Griffiths, Hughes, James, Jones, Morgan, Nicholas, Powell, Prytherch, Rees, Williams in Glamorgan, Brecon, PEM, CMN & MGY

Biddle, Budd, Clark/e, Davis/Davies, Elliott, Emery, Harper, Harris, Lloyd, Parsons, Phillips, Pitt, Reed/Reid/Read/Rhead, Rogers, Scandrett, Smith, Tylor & Waldron in Staffs, Worcs, Hef, Cheshire, Shrops., Middlesex & Surrey.

Cooghan/Coogan/Cogan - Castleblaney, Co Monaghan

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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 20 March 05 12:06 UTC (UK) »

And the next changes ......

- "Comments" can now be up to 40 chars. long,  Smiley
- Input has been simplified                                  Smiley
- a DELETE Function added, use wisely !!! (click on "SHOW just my Surname Interests" )      Smiley

An EDIT function is harder !  For the time being, DELETE any thing you want to change and enter it again !

I suggest that anybody, who has multiple names on one line, or who has Name and place on one line,
should delete this line and re-enter, one line = one name.
because SIT considers this to be one name,  which means:

- the first name in the line will only be found if searching "begins with" or "within words"
- the other names will only be found if searching "within words"
- you will never be found in other Chatters' "SHOW all with my surname interests"
- you will never be find anybody else when you click "SHOW all with my surname interests"


Enjoy,
Bob

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PS:  Goggy, what's with this "Langsam, langsam."  Huh  You should see me when I am being "schnell" !!  Grin
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 20 March 05 15:02 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Hi Bob

I don't know whether anyone else has asked this question, but here goes - will it be possible, eventually, to see all the names at one go ?  ie:  click onto a page and scroll down it alpabetically, or will it only be possible to use the 'boxes', at present in operation ??

Grin Grin Grin
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

Website:  http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/

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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 20 March 05 16:38 UTC (UK) »

Hi Mobo,

it's easy enough to do, but how many want it Huh

If there is enough demand, I'll implement it,

BUT                                             BUT                               BUT                          BUT    

the more people join in (and I imagine, that when the access is through a button on the main page, and not so hidden as it is now, then almost everbody will)  then, to quote Familysearcher
Quote
As we now have over 12000 members at this rate we could end up researching 1/4 million names.  Are there that many?  More importantly - Will the data base cope!!??!!

Do you really want to scroll through THAT many names Huh

 Grin  Grin  Grin  Grin
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe;
Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861)
and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site.

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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Re: SIT: Suggestion Box
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 20 March 05 16:48 UTC (UK) »

 Cheesy Cheesy

It was just a thought Bob - es egal !!
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BUCKLEY, Ches. DUNN, Ireland & Lancs. EDGSON, Rutland, Leics & Lancs. LYON, Lancs. McNULTY, Ireland & Lancs. MORRIS, Beds, Hunts & Lancs. TURNER, Lancs. WILLIAMSON, Lancs.

Website:  http://www.ag19pfalz36.plus.com/

All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk)
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