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Rian
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My grandmother, Lilian Fennessy Hopkins
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The surname interest site is a great idea; I have already found one possible match! However, what happens when there are a lot more people using it and the Jones matches line goes on for a few kms?! Is there any way to narrow down the searches for common surnames? Date matches maybe, or forenames as well?
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Rian,
Interesting ideas, but early days yet.
I think once the test phase is over then many more Chatters will be using it, and the more data we have, the more likely we are to want to refine the searches.
Your ideas definitely go in the pot !!
And the rest of you, if you also have any ideas, share them with us !
Bob
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Searching for Coleman, Moore, Kallnung in London; Margulies, Remenyi in E. Europe; Ancestors of Hessie Stevenson-Coleman-Baxter (Ireland, 1861) and, of course, any other ancestors for my web-site. All Census Data included in this post is Crown Copyright (see: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk) |
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LynWings
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Now waiting for contacts on Rootsweb.
I have added the dates of where I have got back to with each name, will it be possible to edit them as I go back further or will I have to delete and make another entry?
LynWings
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DEVON; Snow, Hill, Cole, Chapple, Davy
EAST RIDING OF YORKSHIRE: Barker, Dunn, Routh, Wilkinson, Wright
IRELAND; Wilson, Jordan, Kiely, Barrett, Donoran, McGrath
LANCASHIRE; Rayner
LONDON; Brooman, Fenn, Morley, James
NORTHAMPTON; Marriott, Coles, Lamb
WEST YORKSHIRE; Binns, Knowling, Paterson, Rayner
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi LynnWIngs,
YES !!!! EDIT will be the next big update, once I figure out a safe method, i.e. without deleting the record first 
Hi Ryan,
Frustrating, isn't it !!
I am not sure how far we can "force" people to add comments, without losing any existing data
Glad you like the "Ten most wanted", that was a bit of light relief from the serious work
Hi Everybody,
1) Any comments on Ryan's idea
2) Tomorrow I am re-activating the test for "Access only through RootsChat button".
Some Chatters had problems before, so if they could let me know, how it goes, I will try and fix any remaining problems.
And then ........ Boo-Boom ..... we go Live !!
Bob
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NigelG
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I agree there should be comments but thinking it through - I've just added the counties or locations I am interested in - no dates. Do we need to record dates or should we have the option to record dates - not sure?
Whilst allowing free format comments is an excellent idea would something more structured be preferable to ensure that everyone records their data in the same way?
Something like "enter name - enter location - enter dates applicable" - would standardise the format of all comments?
Up to you guys - I very impressed with it as it is!! 
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Davies, Edwards, Evans, Griffiths, Hughes, James, Jones, Morgan, Nicholas, Powell, Prytherch, Rees, Williams in Glamorgan, Brecon, PEM, CMN & MGY Biddle, Budd, Clark/e, Davis/Davies, Elliott, Emery, Harper, Harris, Lloyd, Parsons, Phillips, Pitt, Reed/Reid/Read/Rhead, Rogers, Scandrett, Smith, Tylor & Waldron in Staffs, Worcs, Hef, Cheshire, Shrops., Middlesex & Surrey. Biddle & McDermott - Dublin Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Berlin-Bob
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This is similar to something Rian (No, not you, Ryan, Rian !) said earlier on this thread.
Even going on-line for half an hour, I notice the number of entries grows, and the access is still a bit hidden, so when it is just a button on the main page, we will be getting thousands of entries ... and we will be needing other ways of sorting and comparing.
The main thing is:
All data is in a database, so if we decide later to change the formats and possibilities, apart from a few really "wild" ideas, it should be do-able !!
So think about it, let it grow, and think again, and share your thoughts with us !
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SS from The Rhondda
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Bob,
What about demonstrating how entries for surname & optional comments should be structured on the actual input page...
ie:
Surname Interest: [---------------------]
(max 25 chars.)
eg SMITH
Comments: [-----------------------]
(max 40 chars.)
eg Somerset & Dorset - all,
or Kent before 1850, etc
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Berlin-Bob
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Ryan & Rian - quite the coincidence. But what's more a coincidence is that we are the only two people at the moment researching HOPKINS on the SIT!!
Like, WHOW !!!! Could it be that the SIT has already confirmed it's "raison d'étre" and discovered a previously unknown relationship
Seriously though:
I'll think about the mandatory comments, maybe after the EDIT function is available, if I can "fill" all empty comments wth "X" and then change the field description to Mandatory.
But until then, SS from the Rhondda, it's too late at night now, but first chance, I will gladly take your idea and change the form. Thanks.
Bob
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Rian
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My grandmother, Lilian Fennessy Hopkins
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[quote author=NigelG
Whilst allowing free format comments is an excellent idea would something more structured be preferable to ensure that everyone records their data in the same way?
Something like "enter name - enter location - enter dates applicable" - would standardise the format of all comments?
I agree with NigelG — give people more structured boxes to fill in and they will probably do it, whereas just "comments" is a bit too broad and folk aren't sure what to put. I don't think anything needs to be mandatory, as, if they leave all their options open for matches, then they will have more matches to sort through — self regulating!
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[quote author=Ryan
Ryan & Rian - quite the coincidence. But what's more a coincidence is that we are the only two people at the moment researching HOPKINS on the SIT!!
I did notice the coincidence (and lovely photo!) but unfortunately my Hopkins don't come from the same area— mine are Warwickshire, Staffordshire and Liverpool. However if Ryan can find a few ancestors from there........!
BTW— this is a fantastic site: many thanks to the organisers and everyone who participates!
Rian.
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Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukResearching: Anderson, Atton, Bagley, Banks, Barlow, Bartin, Braid, Carveth, Cleary, Couper, Fennessy, Frank, Frisby, Garner, Hathaway, Hollis, Hopkins, Irvine, Jones, Karrasch, Kennett, Kirkpatrick, Kirkness, Kopittke, Leslie, McGinty, Marriott, Meredith, Minshull, Nind, Pearce, Pulley, Reid, Rendall, Shearer, Shorter, Spence, Stephenson, Tate, Warren. UK, Ireland, Prussia and Australia. |
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mnmilt
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Structure may be helpful in some circumstances, but hopefully it won't be too onerous that it scares people away. For some of the names that I have entered I have listed place names since I am only researching that family in a certain area. For other names I haven't entered a place name since my interests cover numerous counties. As mentioned, if place names are important then people will enter them and it will be self regulating (search for Thomas and you will see that most (if not all) people have entered place names since it is a very common name). The date utility could also potentially be counterproductive. If I entered a date range of 1850-1900 and somebody else was interested in the same name but for 1770-1820 they may choose not to contact me since the date ranges don't match, although there could well be a link. Personally I would always enter the widest date range possible since I don't want to accidentally miss possible links.
I appreciate the difficulties that Genes Reunited are having but their database is different in nature in the sense that it involves individuals and not surnames. They certainly do have a large number of entries but I wonder how many they would have if they had insisted that dates and places be entered. That could put a lot of people off.
My 2c worth is to keep it simple and make it easy for people to enter their data. The worst thing that could be done is to make it too daunting and put people off from adding their interests. Most people that are posting their interests (especially the early adopters) will be highly motivated to e-mail other with the same surname interest even if it turns out in the end to be a dead end.
Regards
Mark
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