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dutch missmarple
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Census 1841 lookup please
« on: Friday 01 June 07 18:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

looking for Stephen Hobbs (b. Portsea about 1800) and his wife Elizabeth (b. Portsea about 1800).
They would have had at least 4 children in 1841:
Willaim henry (0), Sarah JAne (2), Alfred (5), Emma (9)
They lived in Tonbridge Kent in 1851, but maybe still in Hampshire in 1841?

They were married before 1837. But when?

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Re: Census 1841 lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Friday 01 June 07 18:49 BST (UK) »
Is this the family?  Stephen is considerably older. Huh wrong wife.

HO107/414/8 folio 49 page 9
living ? Hereford St, Portsea
Stephen HOBBS aged 75 sailmaker
Sarah 40
Emma 5
Alfred 4
all born in county

This family were transcribed as STOBBS
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Re: Census 1841 lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Friday 01 June 07 19:03 BST (UK) »
that was the only one I could find also plus this little combination
also Hereford Street 8/45 p2
Elizabeth Hobbs 40
Elizabeth            15
Charles              12
Sarah                  3
William               8months
all born in county
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 01 June 07 20:22 BST (UK) »
Stephen could have been at sea in the 1841 census.
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Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
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Re: Census 1841 lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Friday 01 June 07 21:30 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Stephen's son Alfred was a sailmaker census 1851, 1861, not sure about 1871.
Could it be that the age of 75 was wrongly transcribed? Or could this Stephen be father-in-law?
And maybe Sarah was his first wife?
Children Emma and Alfred look promissing although Emma should be about 9 in 1841.
More questions then answers....

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 01 June 07 21:56 BST (UK) »
With no relationships given on the 1841 census this is going to be tricky to sort out.
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Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
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« Reply #6 on: Friday 01 June 07 22:39 BST (UK) »
I think as Elizabeth and Sarah were living in the same street it is possible they are related.  Perhaps they swapped children. Huh
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South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 June 07 22:44 BST (UK) »
The IGI has a Stephen HOBBS baptised 9 Feb 1800 at St Mary, Portsea.  Parents Stephen & Charity
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South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
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Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
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Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
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Re: Census 1841 lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 June 07 22:56 BST (UK) »
Hi,

So maybe this Stephen (married to Charity) is the 75 year-old in 1841.
Sarah could be his daughter in-law. His son is not living there at that moment (maybe dead?).
Elisabeth could be married to Stephen jr. (b. 1800). So Sarah and Elizabeth could be sisters in-law.
As to swapping kids... I would like to swap mine sometimes (but just for an hour or so..).

My God! A lot of ifs, maybe's, could be's etc. Keeps getting more and more difficult.

So more questions:
When did Charity die?
To whom was Sarah married.
Who were the parents (esp. father) of Elizabeth (1825), Charles (1829).

DMM
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« Reply #9 on: Saturday 02 June 07 09:56 BST (UK) »
Baptisms and marriages for St. Marys, Portsea are on the IGI.
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Middx - Vaus, Roberts, Eversfield, Inman, Star, Holbeck, Wyatt, Bickford, Smith, Redwood
South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 02 June 07 18:41 BST (UK) »
Hi Bearkat,

You mentioned that Stephen could be at sea census 1841.
Are there any records of the whereabouts of seamen during census 1841?

DMM
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« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 June 07 20:21 BST (UK) »
I think it would mean looking at the National Archives for a Navy record but if he was a mariner or a fisherman I'm not sure you'll find anything.
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Middx - Vaus, Roberts, Eversfield, Inman, Star, Holbeck, Wyatt, Bickford, Smith, Redwood
South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
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Hert - Barnes
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« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 June 07 20:26 BST (UK) »
There are wills for
Stephen HOBBS sailmaker Portsea 1850
Stephen William HOBBS beer retailer Southsea 1872

on the Hampshire CALM database

http://calm.hants.gov.uk/DServeA/search.htm

enter Stephen Hobbs then click "combine words in fields" And
then search
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South Stoneham, Hants - Small, Hammerton, Grist, Fryer, Trodd
Beaulieu/Boldre, Hants - Woodford, Croutear, Beck, Bendell, Keeping, Harding
Kent - Bayly, Borer, Mitchell, Plane, Vernon, Farrance, Chapman, Medhurst, Lomax, Wyatt
Devon - Tope, Bickford, Foster
YKS - Quirk, McGuire, Benn
Nott/Derbs - Slack
Hert - Barnes
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