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Snelling of Lambeth
« on: Monday 20 November 06 11:05 GMT (UK) »

I am looking for any trace of a Mary Ann Snelling who was born in Lambeth. Father James Snelling, marine store keeper. She married an Albert James Walder on 15 February 1891 at St John's Church Fulham.On the 1891 census I have them living at 36 Ferrier street, Wandsworth.
  He is 21,she is 19. After that they disappear completely .I can find no record of her death or if they have children.

Apparently he set up home with another woman who was married also, around 1909-10, and the next paper record I have of him is as a soldier in Newbridge County Kildare in 1916. His name is on the birth cert. for a child born to this lady .
The lady in question was my late husbands grandmother Eleanor Maude Rodd married name Churchill
She married in 1904 to a Malcolm Chuchill and had two children with him, Lillian & John -(my late father in law)-.Around 1909-10 she left him and set up home with Albert Walder .She went on to have five further children with Albert but brought ALL the children up with the name of Walder .What I would like to know is what happened to his legal wife Mary Ann, where did  they  go between 1891 -1909. I have no record of them anywhere .Also where did she die ? again no paper record of her death. I know what happened to Albert and Eleanor they lived from 1918 at 12 Milmans Street Chelsea until his death in 1937.Eleanor then went to live in Greenford until her death around 1963
My Father -in-law never knew that his birth name was Churchill as he joined the army ,married and died with the name of Walder . Luckily I have been able with help to piece together the goings on of Granny 'Walder' but it's the lost Mary Ann Snelling that keeps bugging me .Any ideas folks ?Plus where were they for 18 years ?
The Snelling family also seem to disappear from Lambeth as well. Where did they go?.
Snelling doesn't seem to be a very common surname and i have been trying to find any descendants to see if I could find out from them what happened to her .
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 November 06 13:04 GMT (UK) »

Hello Walder
Welcome to Rootschat!
I have spent some time looking for your Walders in 1901 using a variety of searches as their name could easily be mistranscribed but I can't come up with anything very useful.
I see that there are a number of births (and deaths) of Walder children in Wandsworth RD between 1891 and 1901. It might be worth following some of these up to see where they are in 1901 in case they give you a lead.
I suppose that Mary Ann may have entered another relationship and have died using her "husband's" name. Could she be an inmate somewhere in 1901 - there are a number of people listed as M W and M A W.
Will have a further ponder!
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 November 06 13:14 GMT (UK) »

I have found something interesting in 1901!
in Wandsworth:
Ann Snelling, 70, widowed (b. Chelsea)
Wm Walda, 5 (b. Wandsworth).

I can only imagine this is the son of Albert James Walder and Mary Ann Snelling, living with his grandmother.  There is a William Albert H. Walder b. Dec quarter 1895, Wandsworth (1d/699).
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 November 06 14:22 GMT (UK) »

Well done Jorose.
Definitely looks like Mary Ann's mother.  She is shown on the 1881 census as Annie aged 49 b Chelsea.
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 November 06 22:41 GMT (UK) »

Indeed well done Jorose , this is new information I shall chase up the William Albert H Walder. Maybe Mary Ann died and the Granny took over .Well done I have been bashing my head against this brick wall for ages . Smiley
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 17:23 GMT (UK) »

I have found something interesting in 1901!
in Wandsworth:
Ann Snelling, 70, widowed (b. Chelsea)
Wm Walda, 5 (b. Wandsworth).

I can only imagine this is the son of Albert James Walder and Mary Ann Snelling, living with his grandmother.  There is a William Albert H. Walder b. Dec quarter 1895, Wandsworth (1d/699).

Hi I have just been searching for this image on the 1901 census  and I can't seem to find it anywhere .perhaps I'm doing something wrong. I have found an ann e snelling but that is all and she is born in Southwark
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 17:30 GMT (UK) »

Are you looking on the 1901census website? The spellings are different on there than on Ancestry sometimes.  After searching with first name I find Ann is listed over there as 'Guilling' (!) and Wm as 'Walds'.

(note: no Ann Guilling on 1881 census so I'm inclined to take the Ancestry transcription as more accurate. Smiley )
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 November 06 22:45 GMT (UK) »

 Hi ,thank you for that ,although it looks like Guilling on the original census I looked at the way the writer wrote his 'S's and I agree with you this looks fairly certainly to be Ann Snelling the mother of my missing Mary Ann . The other person in the house apart from the 5 year old William Walder was a G L Guilling (Snelling) aged 25 on the 1881  census Ann Snelling's youngest son is called George so this is probably him. Thank you so much for you help My brick wall is moving a little bit .I only need to find Mary Ann Walder's death cert and I will be really on a roll.   Elenor Maude Rodd who ran off with Albert James Walder (mary ann's husband)her family were undertakers ,I wonder if they did a bit of extra work one night and that is why i can't find her death cert. !!! Shocked Undecided   
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Re: Snelling of Lambeth
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 02 June 07 19:52 BST (UK) »

I have recently started researching Snelling in Middlesex.  Most of my research names stem from Middlesex however the Snelling interest comes from Storrington in Sussex.  Jane was born there in 1809 and married into my line in Middlesex.  I have not researched to see if her parents or siblings moved to Middlesex, but they may have.
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