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trish251
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I have an ancestor from Kilkenny who arrived in Australia c. 1851 - and I wonder if there would be any possibility of finding her family.
I haven't found any record of her arrival, but assume she came via Liverpool (maybe not a correct assumption ).
Name: Fanny Williams
She married in 1858 and details are
Age 23 - born c. 1835
Father John Williams Farmer
Mother Mary Whelan
Birthplace Kilkenny
Could not write
On her death certificate November 1891
Aged 59 Years - born c. 1832
Father John Williams Farmer
Mother Mary Whelan
Birthplace Ireland
Time in Australia 40 years (hence arrival estimate)
Age at marriage 20 - born c. 1838
Informant was her daughter
Cause of death was given as senile decay - so perhaps she was older than 59.
Her husband was also from Ireland (Dublin) - they were married in a Presbyterian Church and her husband declared he was a member of "the Protestant Church", which I rather more expected from my Scottish Ancestors.
Any ideas much appreciated.
Trish
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Lady Macbeth
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Hi Trish, I also had an impossible search and I didn't even have the county. One thing I tried, which worked, was trying to find the father in Griffiths Valuations. It may not be the right one, but it is somewhere to start, then you can try that parish for baptisms. I found a John Williams in Dunkitt, Milltown, and there is also a James Whelan in the same village who may be a relative of the mother and shows both families in the same place, which is a start. This may be way off mark but I have found you have to try everything, even if just to eliminate that possibility.
Link to Griffiths for Kilkenny
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/griffiths/index.htm
Good luck
Lesley
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Gegan, Geoghegan, Gagan, or any variation whatsoever in Ireland (particularly Co Offaly/Kings Co) and Scotland;
Symons and Symon in Angus, Perthshire and Aberdeenshire, Scotland;
McKenna in Ireland and Scotland;
Wilkie in Kincardine and Angus, Scotland
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trish251
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Lesley
Thank you so much - does look interesting - I really had given up - so many thanks - I shall keep looking and follow your links
Trish
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Lady Macbeth
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Don't be discouraged. For 3 years I tried to find out where in Ireland my lot were from before they came to Scotland. I tried everything I could think of. All censuses just had 'Ireland'. I finally found a married sister on the 1871 census after trawlling the census for days and it had the county. This matched a William (their father who didn't move to Scotland) on Griffiths living in that county. I managed to check the baptisms of the town mentioned in Griffiths and found my GGgrandfather and his siblings. Success! I know Scottish censuses won't help you but just wanted to show that, even when it seems impossible, persistance, and trying all leads, does pay off.
Good luck
Lesley
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Gegan, Geoghegan, Gagan, or any variation whatsoever in Ireland (particularly Co Offaly/Kings Co) and Scotland;
Symons and Symon in Angus, Perthshire and Aberdeenshire, Scotland;
McKenna in Ireland and Scotland;
Wilkie in Kincardine and Angus, Scotland
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trish251
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Hi Lesley
Thank you for the enthusiasm / persistence - I think I may need same. I visited Genuki as I do not, at all, understand the geography/counties of Ireland and found there were options for Church of Ireland, RC and other. As her husband was a protestant, I thought I would check the Church of Ireland and other. C of I returned me the joyous information
Dunkitt. Includes Gaulskill and Kilcollum. Earliest Records: lost (in the 1922 fire presumably).
So now I'm about to try the "other" and RC. (And hoping that is more successful).
Many thanks for the Griffiths link - I had never found an index for Kilkenny online.
Trish
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Lady Macbeth
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Hi, don't assume they were NOT RC in Ireland, or that there aren't records. My GGGrandfather married in the Original Secession church in Scotland (vvv strict Protestant) but he was Catholic and his siblings remained RC.
Here is a v useful site; click on RC records and then a parish to see what's available where. Also gives which parishes border on which as may have moved around a bit.
http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/leinster/index_ki.htm
One with links
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/carecord.htm
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/careclds.htm
Just because they aren't online or on LDS database don't assume they aren't accessible. I know this for a FACT as I found mine in transcriptions collected in Offaly of RC parish records by the Geoghegan Society which are definitely not on LDS. I think a lot of these are not even in the Dublin library!! As you have a county and a bit of info, you might want to pay for a search from a genealogist in Kilkenny, as they should have all the accesses. The Dunkitt guy may not be yours so they should be able to look at all info for the county. At least if you do that, you can satisfy yourself someone has searched all available records in the county for you. I really hope it's not the Dunkitt guy now as the records there don't go back far enough......
Good luck
Lesley
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Gegan, Geoghegan, Gagan, or any variation whatsoever in Ireland (particularly Co Offaly/Kings Co) and Scotland;
Symons and Symon in Angus, Perthshire and Aberdeenshire, Scotland;
McKenna in Ireland and Scotland;
Wilkie in Kincardine and Angus, Scotland
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trish251
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Hi Lesley
Thank you for the links & enthusiasm. I shall keep looking. I gave her some peace from my searching about 6 months ago, but don't intend to give up forever
Trish
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kated
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There's this link too
http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlkik/krecords.htm#chuirl
which shows the Anglican parishes in Kilkenny and where they are if they survived.
Kate
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Census transcriptions Crown Copyright, www.NationalArchives.gov.ukPrior,Blyth,Ellis:Halstead, Ramsey Essex Blyth,Faeres,Smith:Suffolk Ballard, Driscoll, Costen,Miller:Kent Driscoll, Ragan: Cork Miller: Hardwick Hardy: Burton, Derby, Ruddington http://www.hi5holidays.com/famhist |
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trish251
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Hi Kate
For some reason I missed your post until today - many thanks for the link
Trish
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