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Topic: mogford and Way surnames in Somerset (Read 850 times)
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ollieandjas
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I have traced with help from some other genealogists my Mogford family back from Newport, Mon to Somerset. I have a John Mogford who married a Betty ( Elizabeth) Way in Dunster in 1803. Both gave their place of residence at the time as Dunster and Betty in the 1851 and 1861 census states that this is her place of birth. However I cannot find a baptismal record for her in the Dunster registers. John Mogford gives his place of birth in these census returns as Wellington Somerset. Again I can find no trace of a baptism for him around 1778-1781. Anyone have any connections or ideas?
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Welsh Jen
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Hi I am sure this family connects to my husbands Cowlin line (Darch, Mogford and Way are also related)
Here is some of this ancestry:
Descendants of Robert Way
Generation No. 1
1. Robert1 Way was born 1680 in Possibly at Sellworthy, Somerset, England. He married Joan Darch Abt. 1745 in Selworthy. She was born Abt. 1720 in Luccombe SOMERSET ENGLAND.
More About Robert Way and Joan Darch:
Marriage: Abt. 1745, Selworthy
Child of Robert Way and Joan Darch is:
+ 2 i. Robert2 Way, born 1717 in Luccombe, somerset ENGLAND.
Generation No. 2
2. Robert2 Way (Robert1) was born 1717 in Luccombe, somerset ENGLAND. He married Phillis Darch 1745 in Luccombe, daughter of James Darch and Joan Hamot. She was born Abt. 1720 in Luccombe Somerset England.
More About Robert Way and Phillis Darch:
Marriage: 1745, Luccombe
Child of Robert Way and Phillis Darch is:
+ 3 i. Phyllis3 Way, born 1747 in Wootton courtenay Somerset England.
Generation No. 3
3. Phyllis3 Way (Robert2, Robert1) was born 1747 in Wootton courtenay Somerset England. She married John Hensley April 29, 1771 in Luccombe, somerset, England, son of Robert Hensley and Christian Berry. He was born Abt. October 11, 1740 in stoke Pero Somerset, England, and died Abt. November 4, 1809 in Luccombe, somerset.
More About John Hensley and Phyllis Way:
Marriage: April 29, 1771, Luccombe, somerset, England
Child of Phyllis Way and John Hensley is:
4 i. John4 Hensley, born Abt. March 29, 1772 in Luccombe Somerset England; died Abt. November 18, 1836 in Dunkery Hill, England. He married Elizabeth Abt. 1828 in Luccombe.
More About John Hensley:
Baptism: March 29, 1772, Luccombe
Marriage of John Hensley and Elizabeth: Abt. 1828, Luccombe
John's Cause of Death: Found Dead n Dunkery Hill from the inclemency of the weather.
I also have Mogford's in the database but will have to check the details over. I also have other contacts for these lines.
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ollieandjas
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many thanks for the e-mail regarding the Way family. My line descends from Betty Way baptised on 2nd April 1784 in Dunster. She was the daughter of Thomas and Jane Wey/Way. I have not been able to find a marriage for Thomas and Jane in the Dunster records. Betty married John Mgford in 1803 in Dunster. Their eldest child Jane married a Robert Jones and went to live in Stoke Pero in the 1850's. Another of their daughters worked and died in Luccombe.
Although I cannot as yet see a connection it is highly probable that there is one as Wooton Courtney and Dunster are extreemly close to each other. Maybe this is where Thomas came from prior to his marriage.
I would be very grateful if you have any information or advice you can pass to help me progress this line. Many thanks for your original message
Jayne
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Welsh Jen
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I have gone back through some of my file on these surnames.
I had 2 contacts with Cowlin / Darch / Way / & Mogford in this region a Susan Hembery Kellow who can be found on the UK Surnames website (Malcolm Hills site): http://www.county-surnames.co.uk/ & also a Wendy Hayes whose email address may now have changed.
Wendy noted that a Nicholas Cowlin born in 1843 married an Elizabeth Ann Mogford and they had 10 children: Emma b.1871, John b. 1872, Ann b.1874, Eliza b.1875, William b.1880, Mary J b.1882, Matthew b.1883, Elizabeth b.1885, Robert b.1887, & Lucy b.1889 All born in Timberscombe Somerset except for William who was born at Cutcombe. ~ The last child Lucy Cowlin b.1889 is My husbands G-Grandmother.
I will see what else I can find. I have so much information on these names it is hard to pick out the details on occasions! 
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ollieandjas
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hello Paul
although I have a few Jane Mogfords in my tree I do not think that there are any connections with your great grandmother. I shall have a good look through what I have in the next few days and see if anything crops up and I will let you know.
Jayne
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Luap
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Good morning Jayne,
I have been able to obtain further infomation on my Mogford line. Does any of the following relate to your Mogford's.
John Mogford born Wellington, Somerset about 1779 married 27 July 1808 Lympsham to Margaret Coles. They had 7 children, Martha 1811, Charles 1813, Mary 1816, John 1818, Ephrain 1821, Albert 1821, Jane 1825 all Somerset. John came to Australia as a convict, married had another son there. John died at the age of 101.
This information was obtained from another web site and I don't know how accurate the info is. It is interesting that it lists John's birth at Wellington about the same time as your John.
What do you think?
Paul
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Chase,Pembrokeshire & Somerset, Mogford,Somerset
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ollieandjas
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hello Paul,
it seems to me that we both have a problem with John Mogfords. From the information that you have supplied I think that they are probably different men both born around the same time. Like you I have no definate record of the birth of John Mogford who consistently states on census returns that he was born in Wellington Somerset. So far in my research I have come across no references to Lympsham or a family by the name of Coles. However I will keep an open mind and let you know if anything else turns up.
Can I ask why you think that your John was born in Wellington? I know from a look at the records of Wellington that there were Mogfords living there and in the surrounding area but have not been able to make any connections with my line as yet.
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ollieandjas
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Paul
you say that he went to australia as a convict. Would his transportation papers have any details of his origins?
Jayne
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