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Topic: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire (Read 1241 times)
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Lloydy
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I think the birth for Lizzie is most likely her She is on the 1871 census age 3 but not the 1881 is it possible she had died?
You can check for a death by searching the incomplete BMD index at Free BMD or the complete version of the index is available to search at Ancestry. You will have to search year by year, quarter by quarter, and it can take some time but worth it in the end.
Johns father was Richard and mother was Elizabeth Marygold on the 1851 census they have children Have you got the full reference please so I can have a look?
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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vj
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Reference for 1851 CENSUS for RICHARD PARTRIDGE /ELIZABETH MARYGOLD is HO107/1990 FOLIO 28 p.19 COUND MOOR I think that is right
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Lloydy
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Thanks vj. I will have a look and see what else I can find for you.
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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I would like details of these on any census........WINIFRED 30 COUND
Reference for 1851 CENSUS for RICHARD PARTRIDGE /ELIZABETH MARYGOLD is HO107/1990 FOLIO 28 p.19 COUND MOOR
From the 1851 census that you gave me, you can see that Winifred became Mrs Hollins!!! Have you got the full details from the image, if not I can transcribe it for you.
Let me know.
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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Winifred in 1861
RG9/1861 Folio 35 Page 18 Cound Moor, Shropshire
Richard Partridge Head Widower 74 Carpenter Salop Cound William Holland Boarder M 37 Farm Labourer Unknown Winifred Holland Daug Boarder 41 Salop Cound John Holland Grandson 13 Scholar Elizabeth Holland Grandaug 11 Scholar Martha Holland Grandaug 8 Scholar Mary Ann Holland Grandaug 5 Scholar Richard Holland Grandson 2
Children all born Salop Cound
The enumerator has written HOLLAND as the surname in 1861, and HOLLINS in 1851......Need a marriage to check which surname is right
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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Winifred in 1871....now we're back to Hollins 
RG10/2794 Folio 48 Page 3 Moreton Corbet, Shropshire
William Hollins Head M 45 Ag Lab Staffordshire Winifred Hollins Wife M 51 Salop Acton Burnell Mary A Hollins Dau 15 Cound Moor Richard Hollins Son 12 Cound Moor Sarah A Hollins Dau 7 Cound Moor
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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Winifred in 1881.....Hollins again, but indexed as Holling 
RG11/2630 Folio 71 Pag: 3 Hill House, Quatford, Bridgnorth, Shropshire
William Hollins Head Marr 54 Farm Labourer Staffordshire Tixall? Winifred Hollins Wife Marr 61 Salop Acton Burnell Mary Ann Boardman Dau Widow 25 Nurse Salop Berrington Richard Hollins Son Unm 22 Farm Labourer Salop Cound Sarah Hollins Dau Unm 17 Servant Salop Cound Henry Boardman 11 months Liverpool
There's no relationship for Henry, although I think we can safely assume that he's Mary Ann's daughter. So, from 1871 to 1881 Mary Ann married a Mr Boardman, moved to Liverpool, had Henry then was widowed.
And....just to confirm:-
Marriages June Quarter 1880 Mary Ann Hollins and James Henry Boardman District: Liverpool Vol: 8b, Page: 309
How sad that she was only married such a short time before being widowed.
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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I can't see Winifred in 1891...here's why:
Deaths January Quarter 1888 Winifred Hollins Age at Death: 67 District: Bridgnorth Vol: 6a, Page 468
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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vj
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Thans Lloydy for info-I do not have the full detaiils from the image and would be grateful if you could transcribe it for me. Could the name be a spelling error do you think I will have to get a copy of marriage certificate to confirm this info I'll add it to my list which gets longer and longer!
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Lloydy
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I do not have the full detaiils from the image and would be grateful if you could transcribe it for me. I certainly can - you already have the reference.........
1851 Cound Moor, Shropshire
Richd Partridge Head Marrd 64 Carpenter Salop Acton Burnell Elizth Partridge Wife Marrd 63 Salop Berrington Hannah Partridge Dau Unmarried 24 Salop Cound Emma Partridge Dau Unmarried 20 Salop Cound Willim Hollins Son in Law Marrd 27 Labourer Ag Staffs Tixal ** Winefred Hollins Dau Marrd 30 Dressmaker Salop Cound John Hollins Grandson 2 Salop Cound Elizabeth Hollins Grandau 11 mths Salop Cound
**I've checked Google Maps and place is TIXALL - approx 6 miles east of Stafford.
I've transcribed the names "as is" on the image, just to let you know that it's not a case of bad spelling 
I been trying to find Hannah and Emma in the 1861 onwards, but they must have either married or died. There are a couple of possibles for each daughter, but we need to find marriages or death records first.
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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I found this in Ancestry:
Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837
Name: Richd Partridge Spouse: Elzth Mariglod Marriage Date: Jan 1810 Parish: Acton Burnell
I can even view the actual image.....PM me your email address and I'll sent it to you. Don't put your email address on here because it will attract spammers!!
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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Lloydy
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Thought I'd post this aswell, don't know if you have it or not -
1841 HO107-910 Folio 16 Page 3 Cound Moor, Shropshire
Richd Partridge 50 Carpenter Elizth Partridge 50 Winifred Partridge 20 Dressmaker Emma Partridge 11 John Partridge 11
All born in County
and living a couple of doors away:
Wm Partridge 65 Elizabeth Partridge 65
Both born in County
Remember that in the 1841 the ages of people over 15 years were rounded down to the nearest 5 years.
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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vj
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Have sent you a PM hope you get it okay
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Lloydy
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Received your PM thanks, and have emailed you the image
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Bennett, Challinor/Challenor, Mills, Evans, Lewis, Owen, Owens, Trow, James, Ashton, Betton/Beaton, Breese, Breeze, Crisp, Davies, Elias, Hudson, Hughes, Jenkins, Turner, Richards, Gethin, Trow, Tudor, Simon....plus tons of Jones!!! - All my Montgomeryshire lot!! Challinor/Challenor - Shocklach, Cheshire Betton - Worthen, Shropshire Trow - emigrated from Wales to New Zealand
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vj
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Thanks for the PM-I have looked at the BMD and have found a marriage for a EMMA PARTRIDGE to WILLIAM PARRY June 1873 h Stretton 6a 1197 could this be worth nvestigating further do you think i I did find a death for an EMMA in Sept 1861 Ch. Stretton 6a 345 these two cant be the same people cant as yet find HANNAH
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