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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 June 07 16:55 BST (UK) »


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I think the birth for Lizzie is most likely her She is on the 1871 census age 3 but not the 1881 is it possible she had died?

You can check for a death by searching the incomplete BMD index at Free BMD or the complete version of the index is available to search at Ancestry.  You will have to search year by year, quarter by quarter, and it can take some time but worth it in the end.

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Johns father was Richard and mother was Elizabeth Marygold on the 1851 census they have children

Have you got the full reference please so I can have a look?

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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 23 June 07 07:35 BST (UK) »

Reference for 1851 CENSUS for RICHARD PARTRIDGE /ELIZABETH MARYGOLD is
HO107/1990
FOLIO 28 p.19
COUND MOOR
I think that is right
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 24 June 07 18:17 BST (UK) »


Thanks vj.   I will have a look and see what else I can find for you.

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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 24 June 07 18:22 BST (UK) »

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I would like details of  these on any census........WINIFRED 30 COUND

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Reference for 1851 CENSUS for RICHARD PARTRIDGE /ELIZABETH MARYGOLD is
HO107/1990
FOLIO 28 p.19
COUND MOOR


From the 1851 census that you gave me, you can see that Winifred became Mrs Hollins!!!  Have you got the full details from the image, if not I can transcribe it for you.

Let me know.



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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 24 June 07 18:34 BST (UK) »

Winifred in 1861

RG9/1861 Folio 35 Page 18
Cound Moor, Shropshire

Richard Partridge Head Widower 74 Carpenter Salop Cound
William Holland Boarder M 37 Farm Labourer Unknown
Winifred Holland Daug Boarder 41 Salop Cound
John Holland Grandson 13 Scholar
Elizabeth Holland Grandaug 11 Scholar
Martha Holland Grandaug 8 Scholar
Mary Ann Holland Grandaug 5 Scholar
Richard Holland Grandson 2

Children all born Salop Cound

The enumerator has written HOLLAND as the surname in 1861, and HOLLINS in 1851......Need a marriage to check which surname is right Wink
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 24 June 07 18:49 BST (UK) »


Winifred in 1871....now we're back to Hollins Grin

RG10/2794 Folio 48 Page 3
Moreton Corbet, Shropshire

William Hollins Head M 45 Ag Lab Staffordshire
Winifred Hollins Wife M 51 Salop Acton Burnell
Mary A Hollins Dau 15 Cound Moor
Richard Hollins Son 12 Cound Moor
Sarah A Hollins Dau 7 Cound Moor
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 24 June 07 19:01 BST (UK) »

Winifred in 1881.....Hollins again, but indexed as Holling Shocked

RG11/2630 Folio 71 Pag: 3
Hill House, Quatford, Bridgnorth, Shropshire

William Hollins Head Marr 54 Farm Labourer Staffordshire Tixall?
Winifred Hollins Wife Marr 61 Salop Acton Burnell
Mary Ann Boardman Dau Widow 25 Nurse Salop Berrington
Richard Hollins Son Unm 22 Farm Labourer Salop Cound
Sarah Hollins Dau Unm 17 Servant Salop Cound
Henry Boardman 11 months Liverpool

There's no relationship for Henry, although I think we can safely assume that he's Mary Ann's daughter.  So, from 1871 to 1881 Mary Ann married a Mr Boardman, moved to Liverpool, had Henry then was widowed.

And....just to confirm:-

Marriages June Quarter 1880
Mary Ann Hollins and James Henry Boardman
District: Liverpool
Vol: 8b, Page: 309

How sad that she was only married such a short time before being widowed.

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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 24 June 07 19:08 BST (UK) »

I can't see Winifred in 1891...here's why:


Deaths January Quarter 1888
Winifred Hollins
Age at Death:    67
District: Bridgnorth
Vol: 6a, Page 468
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #23 on: Monday 25 June 07 08:47 BST (UK) »

Thans Lloydy for info-I do not have the full  detaiils from the image and would be grateful if you could transcribe it for me.  Could the name be a spelling error do you think
I will have to get a copy of marriage certificate to confirm this info I'll add it to my list which gets longer and longer!
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« Reply #24 on: Monday 25 June 07 10:31 BST (UK) »

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I do not have the full  detaiils from the image and would be grateful if you could transcribe it for me.

I certainly can Wink - you already have the reference.........

1851 Cound Moor, Shropshire

Richd Partridge Head Marrd 64 Carpenter Salop Acton Burnell
Elizth Partridge Wife Marrd 63 Salop Berrington
Hannah Partridge Dau Unmarried 24 Salop Cound
Emma Partridge Dau Unmarried 20 Salop Cound
Willim Hollins Son in Law Marrd 27 Labourer Ag Staffs Tixal **
Winefred Hollins Dau Marrd 30 Dressmaker Salop Cound
John Hollins Grandson 2 Salop Cound
Elizabeth Hollins Grandau 11 mths Salop Cound

**I've checked Google Maps and place is TIXALL - approx 6 miles east of Stafford.

I've transcribed the names "as is" on the image, just to let you know that it's not a case of bad spelling Grin



I been trying to find Hannah and Emma in the 1861 onwards, but they must have either married or died.  There are a couple of possibles for each daughter, but we need to find marriages or death records first.
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #25 on: Monday 25 June 07 10:39 BST (UK) »


I found this in Ancestry:

Pallot's Marriage Index for England: 1780 - 1837

Name:                  Richd Partridge
Spouse:             Elzth Mariglod
Marriage Date:     Jan 1810
Parish:          Acton Burnell

I can even view the actual image.....PM me your email address and I'll sent it to you.  Don't put your email address on here because it will attract spammers!!
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« Reply #26 on: Monday 25 June 07 11:03 BST (UK) »

Thought I'd post this aswell, don't know if you have it or not -

1841 HO107-910 Folio 16 Page 3
Cound Moor, Shropshire

Richd Partridge 50 Carpenter
Elizth Partridge 50
Winifred Partridge 20 Dressmaker
Emma Partridge 11
John Partridge 11

All born in County

and living a couple of doors away:

Wm Partridge 65
Elizabeth Partridge 65

Both born in County


Remember that in the 1841 the ages of people over 15 years were rounded down to the nearest 5 years.
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 26 June 07 09:26 BST (UK) »

Have sent you a PM hope you get it okay
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 26 June 07 16:44 BST (UK) »


Received your PM thanks, and have emailed you the image Cheesy
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Re: 1901 Eliza JONES - Shropshire
« Reply #29 on: Saturday 30 June 07 09:48 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the PM-I have looked at the BMD and have found a marriage for a EMMA PARTRIDGE to WILLIAM PARRY June 1873 h Stretton 6a 1197 could this be worth  nvestigating further do you think i
I did find a death for an EMMA in Sept 1861 Ch. Stretton 6a 345 these two cant be the same people cant as yet find HANNAH
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