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missing father
« on: Sunday 10 June 07 02:39 BST (UK) »

does anyone know the father of James Augustus Cattell born1860 in Chorlton Lancashire. I have his birth certificate but it only gives his mothers name Emma Lucy Cattell. I guess this means she was not married at the time. Would there be any paper record of the father or is this a dead end.
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Re: missing father
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 June 07 05:50 BST (UK) »

1861 RG9/2875 folio 56 page 7 Gorton Lancashire Reg district Chorlton
3 Doyden Street

John Cattell age 66 House Carpenter Alcester Warwickshire
Susannah wife age 65 Alcester Warwickshire
Eliza M Cattell dau married age 43 no birth place
Emma L Cattell dau age 19 unmarried no birth place

James A Cattell age 8 months grandson no birth place

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Re: missing father
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 June 07 05:58 BST (UK) »

1871 RG10/535 folio 66 page 29 St George in the East Christchurch London



73 Sheriden Street

Emma Cattell unmarried age 29 Boot Filler Shalford Essex
James Cattell age 10 son Longsyks Lancashire
Rosetta Cattell dau age 3 months St George Middlesex

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Re: missing father
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 June 07 15:31 BST (UK) »

Hi wozzle !

Sometimes, if there was a baptism the parish priest might have recorded the fathers name, even though it does not  appear on the birth cert  Undecided

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Re: missing father
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 June 07 16:10 BST (UK) »

to pam and wendi;
thanks a lot for your input i will definitely try and check up on the baptism angle,
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Re: missing father
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 10:39 BST (UK) »

1881 Bethnel green London


6 Half? Nichol Street
Emma Cattell age 39 laundress widow
James Cattell age 20 born Manchester card box cutter
Rosetta Cattell age 10 born St George East

Rosetta Cattell born St George in the East 1c 459 Mar quarter Middlesex 1871 who is her father??

Rosetta Cattell married Frederick Hall 1890 dec quarter 1c 479 Bethnel Green Greater London London Middlesex


1891 RG12/264 folio 197 page 48 Bethnel Green London

16 Hare Street

Fred Hall age 23 Porter born Shoreditch London
Rosetta wife age 20 fancy box maker Shaderwell London
Emma L Cattell mother in law widow char woman Shalford Essex
Mary C Cattell age 3 niece Shoreditch london

1891 RG12/256 folio 52 page 12 Bethnel green Holy Trinity london

33 New Nichol Street

James Cattell age 30 born Manchester  box cutter paper
Jane wife age 30 Box maker Shoreditch
James son no age Shoreditch

a Susan transcribed as a Cattell with them  but is a different name different household

1901 RG13/287 folio 100 page 26 Bethnel green London

4 Chance Street

Frederick hall age 33 widow wine porter born Shoreditch
Frederick son age 9 Bethnel Green
James son age 7 Bethnel Green
Rosetta dau age 6 Bethnel Green
Emma L dau age 4 Bethnel green


Next household same house


James Cattell age born Manchester general lab
Mary dau age 13 Bethnel Green
James son age 12 bethnel Green
Emma mother widow age 60 Charwoman Stratford


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Re: missing father
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 11:02 BST (UK) »

1842 Emma Lucy Cattell born West Ham Essex/Greater London  June quarter 12 271

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Re: missing father
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 11:17 BST (UK) »

thanks to all who have replied,
down-under, i knew about rosetta and i cannot find her mothers wedding reg. anywhere so do not know her fathers name. Surely she should have his surname unless she was born before they were married.
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Re: missing father
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 11:23 BST (UK) »



Hello

I think  it is a possibilty Rosetta is Illigitermate
the birth certificate will show, most possibly the widow is just a cover.

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Re: missing father
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 13:25 BST (UK) »

I did"nt think of that. Devious these ancestors of ours
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