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North Leigh PRs
« on: Sunday 10 June 07 16:21 BST (UK) »

I'd be grateful for a look up in the North Leigh PRs.

I have a Lydia Snowsell/Snowsill/Snowhill baptised there in 1775  d/o Jonathan & Lydia/Liddy/Edy (I'd love to have the exact date).

I'm desperately trying to match her up to a Lydia Snowhouse who married in Pyrton in 1797. The surname Snowhouse does not seem to exist! A couple of helpful people at the Oxfordshire FHS have highlighted the possibility of 'Snowhouse' being mistaken for 'Snowsell etc'.

What I'd really like to know is - is there any sign of the 1775 Lydia being married in North Leigh, say 1787-1805?

Obviously, if there is, I can eliminate her as a possibility.

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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 10 June 07 16:49 BST (UK) »



  Hi Jill.....

Two people on ancestry have this couple on their tree...one has a note...

Oxford Register of Marriages 1560-1837
Vol 3 1773-1800 burials
marriages at Pyrton1563-1812
vol5 county Oxford
        country England

   James Tagg of Bysham Bucks to Lydia Snowhouse of Britwell Salome, County Oxon.

    Not sure if that helps any as the other details that they give conflict slightly.

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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 10 June 07 18:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Tazzie,

Sorry, I probably haven't explained myself very well!!  Embarrassed

I actually do have a copy of the Pyrton marriage (and it definetly says Snowhouse!).

What I'm after is to find the baptism of this Lydia Snowhouse who married in Pyrton.

As I said, the surname 'Snowhouse' is non existent (other than the possibility that it was double barrelled, as in Snow House).

So, having found a baptism in North Leigh of a Lydia Snowsell/Snowsill at more or less the right time (1775), I'm trying to discover if she might be one and the same as the Lydia who married in Pyrton.

If this Lydia Snowsill married in North Leigh, then she's not mine. It's a process of elimination really!

So, if anyone has the North Leigh PRs - did Lydia Snowsill (etc) marry there about 1787 -1805?

By the way, I think there are a handful of us who are all looking for the elusive Lydia!!   Cry

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Jill
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 10 June 07 18:25 BST (UK) »

Checked on Northleigh sorry no marriage there.
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 June 07 18:28 BST (UK) »

Thanks everso, Toby.

That's actually what I wanted to hear! This could still be my Lydia!

Cheers,
Jill
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John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 June 07 12:15 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill ...

A few more thoughts about your elusive Lydia!

The index for the Northleigh PRs lists the surname as follows:

SNOWSELL, SNO(W)S(H)IL(L), SNOSELL, SNOWSHELL

so it would seem that there was an accepted wide variation in the spelling of the surname!

There are no burials for a Lydia with any of the above surnames at Northleigh.

Apart from the 1797 marriage at Pyrton, there is only one marriage on the OMI for a Lydia SNOW+anything - at Headington in 1792.

The fact that Lydia called her son Jonathan (her potential father's name) is a good sign, but I find the distance between Northleigh and Britwell Salome slightly worrying!

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 June 07 13:46 BST (UK) »

Thanks, Pennie.

The distance between Northleigh and Pyrton worries me as well!

There is a 1766 marriage in Britwell Salome between an Elizabeth Snawshell (another variation!) and Thomas Hasell (Haseley/Hazel??). On the marriage PR for Lydia in Pyrton in 1797, her parish is given as Britwell Salome. So, I'm wondering if there may have been a connection there that would have warranted Lydia to up sticks from Northleigh to Britwell Salome. it's possible!

As for the Lydia Snow from Headington - I pounced on her when I first found her baptism on the IGI, only to be shot down in flames when I found her marriage to the wrong person!!

Snowsell ( and all its variations) isn't a very common name to say the least but not very many at all in the Pyrton area of Oxon!

The marriage of Lydia Snowsell's parents took place in Woodstock in 1761 - their names were Jonathan Snowsell from Northleigh and Edith/Lydia Burborough (doesn't say where she's from). They had 7 children and the mother's name always appears as either Lydia or Lyddy - never Edith!

I already said that my Lydia named her second son Jonathan - not that common a name at that time I don't think. Unfortunately, she didn't call any of her daughters Lydia or Edith!! Drat!

However, her eldest daughter Susannah is in my direct line and  - guess what - she named one of her daughters Edith!!

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence here that I know wouldn't stand up in a court of law. I just need that final bit of proof to link the 2 Lydias.  Frustrating or what?!

Jill
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John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 June 07 10:18 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill

From the Northleigh PR tanscripts Lydia SNOWSILL was baptised the 21st May 1775 and her mother's name was Lydia.

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 June 07 12:21 BST (UK) »

Thanks Sally.

For some reason, the Oxfordshire FHS didn't give me the exact date of her baptism - just the year. So, at least I've now got that - I just need that final link to prove she's 'mine'!!

Jill
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John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 June 07 21:44 BST (UK) »


Just had a look at the burials for Northleigh

and spotted this one

26 Apr 1785  SNOWSIL Edith wife of Jonathan
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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 June 07 22:44 BST (UK) »

Thanks Myfi.

So she's gone back to being called Edith? Seems as though she couldn't make up her mind whether she was called Edith or Lydia!! I suspect she may have been christened Edith Lydia but was familiarly known as Lydia/Lyddy.

Still, it means that her duaghter Lydia was only age 10 when her mother died and provides a good reason for her to be 'farmed out' to a relative in Britwell Salome. I hope!

Thanks for the info

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Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 June 07 23:09 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill

a few more burials at Northleigh

3 Dec 1766 Snowsil/Snowshel    Sarah d of Jonathan & Lydia
                   
19 July 1785  Snowsill  William s. Jonathan of the w. house

9  April 1797 Snowsill  Jonathan
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 17 June 07 11:18 BST (UK) »

Thanks again, Myfi.

This family is beginning to come together for me. I'm about 80% convinced it's the family I'm looking for and that just might have to be enough.  Undecided

I'm still a bit concerned about the distance between Northleigh and Britwell Salome but I'm sure our ancestors travelled a lot further than we are given to believe. Hope so!

Thanks again - much appreciated.

Jill
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John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 17 June 07 13:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Jill

Although most people at that time stayed close to home it was not unheard of to travel further afield. Transcribing PRs for N.W.Norfolk I have a marriage where the groom came from 46 mles away in 1766. Northleigh to Britwell Solome is about 30 miles.

It could be that after her father died she had to look for work further afield.  At that time if you couldn't get anything locally you would go to a Hiring or Letting Fair & hope someone would pick you to work for them. I don't know for sure but Oxford propably held these fairs & people would have come from all parts of the county to hire someone to work for them.
Of course this is only my thoughts on how she could have ended up away from Northleigh but something perhaps worth considering.

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Re: North Leigh PRs
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 June 07 15:55 BST (UK) »

Thanks Sally - it's always interesting to get someone else's view on things.

I've never heard of these Hiring & Letting Fairs - very interesting, if a bit undignified! It could explain how Lydia came to be so far from home - or, there is also the Elizabeth Snawshell who married in Britwell in 1766. Perhaps an aunt who needed help (she did have rather a lot of children!)?

Thanks for the help.

Jill
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Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp  Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp  Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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