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Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« on: Monday 11 June 07 13:33 BST (UK) »

Hi
Can anyone help solve this mystery please!

1.I am seeking the parents Of FANNY COX HILL birth registered Sept 1852. Baptised at Newton Bromswold baptised at Newton Bromswold 22 June 1852  to Letitia Hills a widow - no father's name given! Huh

1. In March Q 1860 I have Letitia HILLS marrying GEORGE BODDINGTON both died in 1877.
All events at Newton Bromswold. They had a son Abraham in 1862.

2. I have an entry from the Newton Bromswold Parish Register which tells me that Letitia TWELFTREES(Twelvetrees etc) married John HILLS 14 October 1845. (should be Dec Qtr registration right?)

3. On Free BMD Letitia Twelftrees married either George COX, George WELLS or William Twelftrees  Dec Q  1845??? Huh

I think Letitia was born about 1816.
Could some one find her in 1851/61 and advise who she is with and where?  Maybe as
Letitia Hills
Letitia Cox
Letitia Wells??

I'm confused & going to bed - please surprise me in the morning! Grin
TIA
Marlene
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BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 June 07 13:40 BST (UK) »

Hi Marlene

Not wanting to add to the confusion  Tongue but there seems to be a possible Letitia Twelfree - John Hills marriage in Sep 1838 Wellingbro XV 31(search for John Hills if you want to find it).





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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 June 07 13:44 BST (UK) »

1841
HO107/802/8 4 28
Newton Bromshold

John Hill, 23, Ag lab, yes
Letty, 25, no
Fanny, 2, yes

(Several Twelfree families in the area.)
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« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 June 07 13:54 BST (UK) »

1851
HO107/1743 260 24
Newton Bromswold

Lattia Hills, head, wid, 36, Lacemaker, b. Beds Melchbourne?
Henry, son, 8, at work upon a Farm, b. Newton Bromshold
Mary Ann, dau, 6, scholar, b. do.
George, son, 4, scholar, b. do.
Sophia Twelftree, lodger, unm, 35, Lacemaker, b. do.
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 June 07 14:13 BST (UK) »

1861
RG9/952 30 22
Newton Bromshold, Northamptonshire
High St

George Boddington, head, mar, 61, Ag lab, b. Beds Pirsely?
Henry Hills, son in law, unm, 18, ag lab, b. Newton Bromshold
George Hills, son in law, unm, 14, Ag lab, b. do.
Fanny Hills, dau in law, 8, b. do.

Can't see Letitia for now ...   see next post
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 June 07 14:16 BST (UK) »

Kia Ora Tati
Many thanks - I had that marriage originally & then got a transcription from a local of the NB Register  which threw me a bit!
I'm sure that's right as Henry grew up to be a methodist minister and we have the photo.

The first Fanny died in 1847 as did the father I think, so the 2nd - Fanny Cox Hills was definitely illegit.
The Sophia with them in 1851 will be Letitia's sister.

Could you see Letitia in 1861 born Melchbourne? Fanny is with George Boddington but I couldnn't find Letitia when I had Ancestry!!
Very grateful for your help!
regards
Marlene
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BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 June 07 14:24 BST (UK) »

Have found 'Lettice' now with George's son:

RG9/952 30 22
Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire

Geo Boddington, head, 34, Ag lab, b. Riseley
Elizth, wife, 40, Lace Maker, b. Tilbrook 
Mary?, dau, 8, Lace Maker, b. do.
Sarah A, dau, 5, Lace Maker, b. do.
Lettice, mother in law, 45, Nurse, b. Melchbourn
William, son, 14, Ag lab, b. Tilbrook
John Lynes, (not sure: son in law?), 10 mo?, b. Sharnbrook 

Mother in law as in stepmother, obviously


PS. Shouldn't you be sleeping?  Grin
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 00:22 BST (UK) »

Hi Tati
Yep I SHOULD have been  - brain was whirling, eyes going sideways so I sloped off to the spa while you laboured away! Grin
THANK you very much - at a cursory glance it looks like my Lettice/Letty was slightly more respectable than I had given  her credit!

I do like to have a clear picture in my mind before I order Certs so that I get a heap at once and can be reasonably sure it is logical!
YOU have helped tremendously as I had no idea of George B's son George but I have other Tibrook connections so it makes a lot of sense! Smiley
Interestingly the Lynes name fits in elsewhere in a very complicated fashion!
Thanks ever so much!
Marlene
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HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 01:49 BST (UK) »

We seem to have at least 2 Letitias.

John HILLS of this parish, bach, 20, lab father William a labourer married Letitia TWELFTREE of this parish spinster 22, lacemaker father William, labourer 1st Jul 1838 in Newton Bromshold

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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 12 June 07 05:40 BST (UK) »

Kia Ora Marilyn
Thank you! I am somewhat amazed as a local sent me the entry from the NB Parish Register saying a John HILLS married Letitia TWELFTREES on 14 October 1845!

Hence me casting more nasturtiums than necessary on my poor Leititia!

I was totally confused!  I think now I have enough information to get a straight line of descendancy on Letitia possibly born & baptised Melchbourne 1816.

I remain curious about the other couple though!!  Huh  Maybe the cleric had too much communal  wine!
Time to prepare dinner and have one myself!
Regards
Marlene

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HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 June 07 08:40 BST (UK) »

Kia Ora Marilyn
I don't suppose you have the details of the Letitia (Twelftree/s , Tweltree/ Twelvetrees who married GEORGE COX in 1845 do you?
I can't find any sign of her in 1881 and don't have the other censii.
Many thanks
Marlene
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HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe
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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 17 July 07 17:23 BST (UK) »

I have a Letitia Twelftree born circa.1782 to Robert Twelftree and Hannah Warren of Newton Bromswold.  She was their eighth child.

I am undertaking a One-Name Study of the Twelftree/Twelvetree(s) surname.  I am convinced that all people in the world with these surnames will be traced back to just three males in the mid-1600's; two in Huntingdonshire and one in Northamptonshire.

I would be willing to share information with whoever is also researching these surnames.

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Re: Letitia Twelftrees ?? 1851 census?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 18 July 07 01:26 BST (UK) »

Hi Carol
I think we have been in touch before!
I need to know about  the Daniel T who married Sarah Earston in Melchbourne Beds in 1810! Huh

I think he died between 1816 and 1832 and that Sarah remarried to a William T (brother or cousin??)

It seems their daughters including "my Letitia born c.1816 moved to Newton Bromswold.

Unfortunately I have seen a number of trees which are just nonsense so i'm looking for info I can prove!
Maybe you can give me a steer! I'll leave the NZ family to answer your post on the other site!
Good luck with your one name study!
Marlene
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HUNTS: Fairy, Ding, Scotney, Swinton, Burgess, Brace
BEDS: Farey, Fairy,  Young, Rootham, Gell, Wildman, Cooper. Deighton, Flavel.
NORTHANTS: Hills, Mobbs, Twelftrees,
DERBY: Fairey,
LONDON: Fairey, Fairy, Burgess, Williams, Tanser, Picknell, Vinall, Plampin, Mullins, Day, Folwell, Bamfield, Brown
WATFORD HERTS; Burgess, Williams
WARKS: Fairy, Ward, Stephens, Reeves, Hodgkiss, Byrne, Hunt, Edgeworth, Harper, Dudley,
WORCS: Callow, Lowe
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