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Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« on: Monday 11 June 07 21:36 BST (UK) »

1851 census, Shoreditch, Middlesex: HO107/1537/53 p27

I'm afraid I can't work out what the place of birth for Samuel DORRINGTON is - Worting? Working? Norting?  Can't find any of them on the map.

Can anyone with better knowledge of Herts villages than me tell me what it says?

(His wife, Mary COLLIS is the sister of my great x3 grandfather Daniel COLLIS - their father William is staying with the Dorringtons at the time of the 1851 census.)

Thanks very much indeed.


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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:42 BST (UK) »

I think it says Worting but that is in Hampshire.  Huh

Whereas Thundridge is in Hertfordshire
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:44 BST (UK) »

Aulus

Have you checked it against the other census returns?  that might give an answer  Smiley

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:47 BST (UK) »

Yes, you're absolutely right Kerry - I'm onto that as soon as I've recorded all the information on the 1851.  I just thought someone might "know" what it was supposed to say!

The Collis clan are from Thundridge, Herts.

Edited to say that I can't find him on a later census.  The IGI record mentioned below suggests some of them went to Australia.  The Dorringtons are a little tangential, so I don't think I can be bothered trying to teach myself Australian records.

Not for the moment anyway ...
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:49 BST (UK) »

Woking?Huh Grin
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:51 BST (UK) »

It's probably another one of those Enumerator errors!

Crozier I thought Woking but wrong county, isn't it Surrey?

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:55 BST (UK) »

There's a Samuel Dorrington, b. 1818 at Watton at Stone, Herts on the IGI but it looks nothing like that  Undecided

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:57 BST (UK) »

but also, the one who married Mary Collis is in as a patron submission, born London, Middlesex  Undecided Undecided Undecided
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:58 BST (UK) »

There's a Samuel Dorrington, b. 1818 at Watton at Stone, Herts on the IGI but it looks nothing like that  Undecided

Gadget

You might be onto something there.  They sound similar, don't they?  Watton, Worting (especially if you adopt a comedy yokel accent Grin)
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #9 on: Monday 11 June 07 21:58 BST (UK) »

but also, the one who married Mary Collis is in as a patron submission, born London, Middlesex  Undecided Undecided Undecided

What's a "patron submission"?   Huh
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #10 on: Monday 11 June 07 22:08 BST (UK) »

It's a submission made by an individual rather than as part of the 'controlled extraction' from parish records and will not have been subject to any checks.

Most usually turn out to be  OK but have to be checked against other records.

I wouldn't take it as reliable unless I was able to confirm using other sources.

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« Reply #11 on: Monday 11 June 07 22:10 BST (UK) »

Oh right, thanks, Gadget - I'd not heard it called that before.

Yes, they're best treated with suspicion, I find!
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson
Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith
East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton
East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge
Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens
Marylebone & Sussex: Cole
London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman
Bowland: Marsden, Noble
Shropshire: Guest

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« Reply #12 on: Monday 11 June 07 22:12 BST (UK) »

There's a Samuel Dorrington, b. 1818 at Watton at Stone, Herts on the IGI but it looks nothing like that  Undecided

Gadget

You might be onto something there.  They sound similar, don't they?  Watton, Worting (especially if you adopt a comedy yokel accent Grin)

Now I've said it a few times in my best comedy accent, it can sound like Warting Cheesy

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 18 June 07 10:11 BST (UK) »

Welwyn can sound like "Worling" too.

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Re: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 28 June 07 17:06 BST (UK) »

Hi,

The Watton at Stone parish records gives the baptism of Samuel s/o Samuel and Sarah DORRINGTON on 08Mar1818 and the marriage of Samuel DORRINGTON and Sarah OZIER by banns on 17Jun1815 witnessed by John OZIER and Sarah CARTER.

Hope this helps.

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