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Topic: Can anyone tell me what this census says for birthplace? (Read 1043 times)
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Aulus
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1851 census, Shoreditch, Middlesex: HO107/1537/53 p27
I'm afraid I can't work out what the place of birth for Samuel DORRINGTON is - Worting? Working? Norting? Can't find any of them on the map.
Can anyone with better knowledge of Herts villages than me tell me what it says?
(His wife, Mary COLLIS is the sister of my great x3 grandfather Daniel COLLIS - their father William is staying with the Dorringtons at the time of the 1851 census.)
Thanks very much indeed.
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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bearkat
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I think it says Worting but that is in Hampshire. 
Whereas Thundridge is in Hertfordshire
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Aulus
Have you checked it against the other census returns? that might give an answer 
Kerry
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk
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Aulus
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Yes, you're absolutely right Kerry - I'm onto that as soon as I've recorded all the information on the 1851. I just thought someone might "know" what it was supposed to say!
The Collis clan are from Thundridge, Herts.
Edited to say that I can't find him on a later census. The IGI record mentioned below suggests some of them went to Australia. The Dorringtons are a little tangential, so I don't think I can be bothered trying to teach myself Australian records.
Not for the moment anyway ...
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« Last Edit: Tuesday 12 June 07 00:16 BST (UK) by Aulus »
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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It's probably another one of those Enumerator errors!
Crozier I thought Woking but wrong county, isn't it Surrey?
Kerry
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukSearching for my family - Baldwin - Sussex, Middlesex, Cork, Pilbeam - Sussex, Harmer - Sussex, Terry - Surrey, Kent, Rhoades - Lincs, Roffey - Surrey, Traies - Devon & Middlesex & many many more to be found on my website .... www.kerrysfamilyhistory.co.uk
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There's a Samuel Dorrington, b. 1818 at Watton at Stone, Herts on the IGI but it looks nothing like that 
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but also, the one who married Mary Collis is in as a patron submission, born London, Middlesex
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There's a Samuel Dorrington, b. 1818 at Watton at Stone, Herts on the IGI but it looks nothing like that  Gadget You might be onto something there. They sound similar, don't they? Watton, Worting (especially if you adopt a comedy yokel accent )
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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What's a "patron submission"?
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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It's a submission made by an individual rather than as part of the 'controlled extraction' from parish records and will not have been subject to any checks.
Most usually turn out to be OK but have to be checked against other records.
I wouldn't take it as reliable unless I was able to confirm using other sources.
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Oh right, thanks, Gadget - I'd not heard it called that before.
Yes, they're best treated with suspicion, I find!
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Lancashire: Stevenson, Wild, Holden, Jepson Worcs/Staffs: Steventon, Smith East London & Suffolk: Guest, Scrutton East London: Palfreman (prev Tyneside), Bissell, Collis, Dearlove, Ettridge Herts: Camac, Collis, Mason, Dorrington, Siggens Marylebone & Sussex: Cole London & Huntingdonshire: Freeman Bowland: Marsden, Noble Shropshire: Guest Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Not long now !
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Welwyn can sound like "Worling" too.
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