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Topic: James & Sarah VENABLES - Cheshunt (Read 1038 times)
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newbrunswick
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Hi again Lin: Thanks for the info. It corresponds with mine excepting Charles b. 1838 that I have listed as a son of William and Charlotte. I know that this sounds stupid, but........who are William and Mary? Is there a connection here? James (according to the census) was born in 1781. If this is correct, then that elimates James Venables and Jane Mold, married 1783, but I guess, not entirely. It has happened.
Frances Venables (my great grandmother) had 15 children- 1 died at a year old. All but 1 (David) immigrated to Canada, scattering all over the country. Some remained in the Newbrunswick region. There are many descendents. My maiden name was Adams.
Hollie is connected to me through Richard Venables who married Sally Burgess who was the sister to my great grandmother on my grandmother's side. Get that! A double connection. And you think you're confused. I did have your email address, but can't locate it, so will try to attach photo of David and Sarah Ettridge.[img][/img] Sorry, my intentions were good, but I can't figure it out. I'll try and find your address. If you don't get it, you'll know I didn't find it. My desk is in shambles.
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Shireditch, Hertsfordshire: Ettridge, Farrin, Adams, Venables
Jackson, Burgess,
Birmingham, & Sedgely, Staffordshire: Hill, Farmer, Devey
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ninkynoo
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Hi Anne
William and Mary were Ballards ,parents of Elizabeth and Charlotte.
The 1841(James b1781) census rounds ages to the nearest 5 so there could vaguely be a link.
I'll send you a PM with my e mail address.
I did see William Hills a while ago and found out some details but ,like you I do not have a filing system ,just a heap of paper that will get sorted soon.
I have Burgess in my family tree but mine are all from the Tendring Peninsular (NE Essex).
Lin
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Pratt ,Burgess,Gladwell ,Taylor, Forrester ,Layzell ,Watling ,Merryfield Raven Essex
Field ,Warren.Davis, Spickett ,Peppiatt ,Bucks
White born Dorset moved to Hampshire,Shropshire and finally to Essex
Katherine Murphy b1872
Buggs ,Day ,Stygal,Balls ,Suffolk ,Norfolk ,Hertfordshire
Venables ,Hertfordshire
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Hollylianne
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For William Ballard and Mary -
I also have a son George christened/baptised 17.4.1796.
I have John c.10.10.1790 and poss married a Phyllis. Also got Ann who poss married William Gibbs, and George poss married Mary Silvy 5.6.1825.
I also came to the speculation that James Venables b.1786 parents were James c.28.3.1763 Cheshunt and Jane Mold m.1.9.1783. Their other children look like Ann, James, James, Maria, Sophia, Susanna, Matilda, Harriet and Catherine.
Additionally, i have found James Venables b.1786 who married Sarah daughter Ann b.1818 married to James Dyson. Their children were James William, Elizabeth Jane, Sarah Ann, Louisa and William.
As for Frances Venables b 1858, i have been told they had 15 children.
Hi Anne and Hollie
William Ballard and Mary's children that I have found are:
John 1790 Cheshunt
Anne bp3/2/1792
Charlotte
Elizabeth
James bp9/9/1798 Cheshunt
Thomas bp 13/9/1801 Cheshunt
Have looked for a marriage for them and the nearest one in the time frame is in Epping ,but as it is only a brain storm I have not put that in my tree.I also have a sneaky feeling that James parents were James Venables and Jane Mold married 1/9/1783 but again it is speculation.There is a tree on ancestry but the facts do not add up properly on it and as it was put on there in 2004 I think some of it could be wrong ,so I really don't know any further.
William and Charlottes children you probably have but ,hey what the heck ,I expect someone else may need them at some stage , are:
Jane bp 20/2/1831
Emma BP 1/2/1835
Charles bp 7/7/1837
Harriet(t) bp23/10/1842
Benjamin bp 17/5/1840
Jonathon bp 3/8/1843
All born Cheshunt
Have you found Frances Venables b 1858 ? (daughter of David b1828)so far I have found 13 children with the possibility of a couple more ,she married William John Adams. Crikey and I complain about the one child I have left at home.
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ramsay - Paisley, brock - glasgow, brackenridge - Scotland, thomson-Scotland, richardson- Scotland, mcclure- Scotland, raeside - Scotland, brown - Scotland, borland - Scotland, mckeller - Scotland, caton - essex, Cross - Navestock/Mount Nessing, moseley- london, mcneil, davies, harper, blake, fitzjohn, steer, kennington, venables - cheshunt, ward, cook, pavey
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ninkynoo
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Thanks Peter for taking the time to help out ,it's really appreciated as I didn't have the dates of birth ,just the baptism dates.I think we are all on the right track.
15 children and no washine machine!!!!!
Lin
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Pratt ,Burgess,Gladwell ,Taylor, Forrester ,Layzell ,Watling ,Merryfield Raven Essex
Field ,Warren.Davis, Spickett ,Peppiatt ,Bucks
White born Dorset moved to Hampshire,Shropshire and finally to Essex
Katherine Murphy b1872
Buggs ,Day ,Stygal,Balls ,Suffolk ,Norfolk ,Hertfordshire
Venables ,Hertfordshire
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Mary Pendred
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Can you tell me about your Bullard family in Cheshunt, Herts. some of my Bullard family from Hunts went to Herts, believe some may have gone to Cheshunts
Regards
Mary pendred
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Hello Mary: I'm afraid that I really don't have much information on the Ballard (not Bullard) family that is connected with my ancestors. What I have is: Elizabeth Ballard, daughter of William and Ann Ballard, born 1807 Cheshunt, Christened 7 Apr 1807, died ABT 1867 - married BEF 1824 to George Venables b. 1805 Cheshunt, Christened 17 Nov 1805, died 1849, son of James and Sarah Venables. They had 11 children. If this is of any use to you, please let me know. I can give you the names of their children with birth dates, if you require. I know that Ballard and Bullard are very close, but I am certain of the "Ballard" spelling in my family. Hope this is some help to you.
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Shireditch, Hertsfordshire: Ettridge, Farrin, Adams, Venables
Jackson, Burgess,
Birmingham, & Sedgely, Staffordshire: Hill, Farmer, Devey
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