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Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 03:17 BST (UK) »

Hello All,
Can you please advise if this is a problem, or should I just ignore it?

The error message then reads:
Your system is low on virtual memory. Windows is increasing the size of your virtual memory paging file. During this process, memory requests for some applications may be denied. For more information see Help.

As, at the time, the only programme running was Luke Filewalker Avira AntiVir, I thought this message was a bit over the top.

I have a 2 year old machine running XP and it has heaps of room.

Thank you,
Jean

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 June 07 04:04 BST (UK) »

Hi Jean

You could have a look in:
My computer
Properties
Advanced
Settings
Advanced

and see what your "Virtual Memory" is set at.
Try changing it.
Mine is set at 1536MB, the maximum is 3072.

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 June 07 11:12 BST (UK) »

Jean

It's not the amount of room on your PC but the amount of memory you have.

Right click the 'My Computer' icon on your desktop, choose 'Properties', then 'General'.

Under Computer it will tell you what type of processor you have and how much memory.

I am on my works PC and mine reads Intel(R) Pentium 4 CPU 1.60GHz (This is the processor)
654,352 KB RAM (This is the memory).

Depending on what you are running and the amount of memory available, the PC may need to create it's own - hence virtual memory.

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 June 07 11:22 BST (UK) »

This problem seems to be happening a lot lately ...

Copy and Paste the key bit of the error message into a Google Search.... one of the many hits is this one ..

http://blogs.technet.com/askperf/archive/2007/05/15/what-s-going-on-with-my-pagefile.aspx
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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 June 07 11:52 BST (UK) »

dinie

Virtual memory is a temporary storage area (on the hard disk) used by a computer to run programs that need more memory (RAM) than it has, which is quite different to RAM.

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 June 07 12:00 BST (UK) »

Virtual = of essence, but not in fact....

all applications can address up to 4Gig of memory addresses.

no applications are allowed to access Real memory (RAM) directly.

Windows Supervisory code manages the Memory (RAM) resource and allocates 'pages' of RAM for an application ...... to hold its program code and data whilst its actually executing.

When multiple applications are running, Windows 'pages out' (swaps out) the data being used in RAM by an application to disk  .... and then allocates the RAM pages to another application or Windows Process .... which then gets swapped back into RAM...

Soooo, if things are pretty busy and an application is referencing a lot of virtual addresses, the Page File on Disk has to be big enough to cope.

The rule of Thumb is 1.5 * RAM size.

The gist of the article I read is that an error is actually occuring causing 'memory leak', and that triggers XP into thinking that the Page file on disk isnt big enough ...

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 June 07 19:27 BST (UK) »

You may like to check how much disk space you have.

I normally try to run with my disk no more than about 3/4 full.

If its nearly full then that is probably your problem.

If not, you can safely ignore the problem but try doing a few adware/virus scans etc, there might be something lurking. Smiley.

If it happens again it would be a good idea to restart your PC fairly soon afterwards.

If it keeps on happening, get back to us and we'll have another think.

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 June 07 20:56 BST (UK) »

Thank you all for the suggestions. I am about to leave for work, so will look at it this evening.

Regards,
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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #8 on: Friday 15 June 07 18:31 BST (UK) »

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The gist of the article I read is that an error is actually occuring causing 'memory leak', and that triggers XP into thinking that the Page file on disk isnt big enough ...

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Out of interest, how would you check if something was "leaking memory" and how would you correct it?

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 16 June 07 09:08 BST (UK) »

These sort of articles explain in far more depth than I can ..

http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_can_i_fix_too_little_virtual_memory_in_windows.html

Try googling 'Memory leak' for more facts and soluitions

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« Reply #10 on: Saturday 16 June 07 10:04 BST (UK) »

A memory leak is like the clothes on the floor of a teenagers bedroom.  Roll Eyes

Whenever a program wants a new chunk of memory it ask the system for some - like taking a tee shirt out of a drawer and putting it on. When the tee shirt is no longer required it should be put in the laundry basket which, ultimately, will get it washed and put back in the drawer. Sadly, badly written programs - like teenagers - sometimes just drop their clothes on the floor.

The result, a messy room with a thick layer of clothes on the floor and not enough in the drawers. Smiley

Most systems can handle that for a while but eventually the supply of tee shirts runs out and the system must go to the store to buy new ones, and this is what Vista is doing when it shows this message.

One small point to remember. Whenever you restart your pc its like a spring clean. All the rooms start clean and fresh and all the tee shirts are clean and in drawers. If, however, you hibernate your computer, the mess on the floor doesn't get cleaned up.

So, dinie,

'how do you check if something is leaking memory': there are ways of finding out how many tee shirts are in drawers (free memory) but if you try to venture into a teenagers room to gauge the depth of the 'clothes layer' you are in for a major argument.

how would you correct it: upgrade your teenager Grin or restart regularly.

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Re: Windows-Virtual Memory Minimum too Low
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 16 June 07 10:47 BST (UK) »

Paul

What a wonderful description. Being the parent of post teenage kids, I can visualise it perfectly.

I have recently increased my RAM by 1Gb, so now have 1.2G RAM. My PC gets turned off every night.

Before upgrading my RAM I used to get this problem a lot, but not since (touch wood Cheesy Cheesy)

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