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William PEARCE
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 08:10 BST (UK) »

Hi,

We're trying to find some more information on the family of William Pearce. The family history we have says that he was born on 15th of March 1858. His fathers name was John, and he had a sister, Mary. William went to school in Cornwall, possibly in Launceston. William and Mary travelled to Australia on the Hesperus in 1874.

At this stage I have not found any information on William and Mary's family. If anyone can link in with it or help us, we'd be very appreciative.

Tennille.
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Re: William Pearce
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 June 07 08:48 BST (UK) »

Hello Tennille & welcome to RootsChat

I am not easily finding your folks on the 1861/71 census in Cornwall. Do you have an approx birth date for Mary? And did either marry in Australia? If so does the marriage certificate give a location other than Cornwall for the birth - or a mother's name?

At the minute there are quite a few possibilities for William with father John.

FreeBDM gives a William Henry Martin Pearce, registered Launceston Mar Qtr 1858 - Could this be your man?

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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 June 07 12:00 BST (UK) »

Hi Tennille,

A big welcome from me also   Grin

With the given information I can't spot a likely family in the census. As Trish has said an age for Mary may help. I am guessing by your other post that the family possibly came to SA. If that is the case unfortunately the marriage certs will only list fathers. Depending when they died, death certificates may give a little more information. On checking the SA marriages I could see more than one possible marriages.

Perhaps if you can give us more information we may be able to find something. Unfortunately we are talking very common names here so if the family happened to have emigrated to the Eastern States, it would be a real bonus as you will gain a lot of information from the certificates.

Unfortunately I don't think the birth mentioned by Trish is the right one. He appears to be the son of Henry Martin Pearce b Stoke Climsland

We are very fortunately when researching in Cornwall to have so many records available free online. For Census Free Online please see

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144624.0.html

Parish Records
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,52054.0.html

Other Links
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,52050.0.html

Cheers Kris  Cheesy
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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #3 on: Friday 15 June 07 01:02 BST (UK) »

Hello, and thank you both for your replies.

At the moment I am working from a family history which was compiled from memories and local Australian records, back in the late 70's or early 80's. I have found a little more information in it.

The family name was originally spelt Pearse, so I may have to start looking under that if nothing further can be found.

William went to school in Cornwall, at the time it was written "possibly in a town called Lanceston, but I could not find a town of that name on a map". I am assuming it is Launceston.

Mary was born 16.04.1862. They also had a sister Eliza, who apparently went to NZ, but the book says it was only known to various family members. I don't think the writter did any research on her (or Mary, though her life is apparently written about in another book, which I will have to look for).

We have all the information from when William and Mary arrived in Australia (yes, they settled in South Australia), but nothing from their life in Cornwall (other than what I have supplied).

Thank You again for your warm welcomes!

Tennille.
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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #4 on: Friday 15 June 07 01:40 BST (UK) »

He Tennille,

Yes Launceston seems a logical conclusion. Now I see this family in Lewannick, Launceston Reg district

1861 Census

RG9/1517 Folio 74 Page 11
Lewannick Village


PEARCE John Head 30 Mar b South Petherwin ag Lab
PEARCE Eliza Wife 24 Mar b Lewannick
PEARCE William Son 3 b Lawannick
PEARCE Elizabeth J Dau 1 b Lewannick

1871 Census

RG10/2222 Folio 74 Page 10
Lewannick Village


PEARCE John Head 49 Mar b South Petherwin ag lab
PEARCE Eliza Wife 36 Mar b Lewannick
PEARCE Elizabeth Dau 11 b Lewannick
PEARCE Mary Dau 9 b Lewannick
PEARCE Anne Dau 7 b Lewannick Scholar
PEARCE Elizabeth Dau 9 b Lewannick Scholar
PEARCE Emily Dau 5 b Lewannick Scholar
PEARCE John Son 3 b Lewannick
PEARCE Samuel Son 4 months b Lewannick

(Johns age appears to wrongly enumerated judging by other entries but that is what it says)

(next door is Maria 61)

RG10/2227 Folio 76 Page 11
Trethevey
South Petherwin


home of William Lane 50 - farmer 272 acres empolying 4 men and 2 women)

PEARCE William Servant 13 b Lewannick Farm Servant Indoor

now John and Eliza are still in Lewannick in 1881

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1881&indiv=try&h=1856225

The youngest child is aged under1 month. The name is spelt with an s. I can see no sign of William or Mary in 1881 so good chance they immigrated. Elizabeth could be Eliza. Certainly William and Mary's ages seem perfect and it is Launceston Area

According to Genuki Launceston is 4.3 Miles NE of Lewannick. There is an OPC for Lewannick

http://www.cornwall-opc.org/Par_new/l_m/lewannick.php

By the way, re the SA part - nothing of any help in BISA?

Good Luck.............Kris  Cheesy
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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #5 on: Friday 15 June 07 02:03 BST (UK) »

Thanks Kris. I think I may have found another possibility. On another site I have found a family tree for a John Pearce, also born 1858 (twins?). His father was also John, mother Sarah. He had a brother William Pearce (1858). They were all from Staines, Middlesex. I'm thinking it's possible they moved later on. Though there isn't a mention of Mary or Eliza, so he may not be the same person. Need to look more at Census and other records from the area I guess. Thanks for all of your help.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 15 June 07 02:52 BST (UK) »

Just wondering why you would think a middlesex family with no Mary or Eliza is likely. Huh Do you have reason to believe he was not born in Cornwall

Confused........Kris  Cheesy

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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #7 on: Friday 15 June 07 03:20 BST (UK) »

lol... sorry, didn't mean to be confusing. It's a long shot I know, considering the names John and William were so common back then.

I only thought it an option as the fathers name was also John. The brothers of this William Pearce were born in 1858 (also John) and Philip (1855). I thought that maybe the person who did the tree did not go further and research any further children (we know Mary wasn't born until 1862).

Your information looks much more likely when I think about it. I was only put off due to there being an Elizabeth and no Eliza (which is what the other sister was known as in my records). I guess she may have preferred it shorter. We have no records to show what it really was, or even when she was born, only that she moved to NZ.

I notice Eliza's (the mother) age doesn't add up either, there is 12 years between the 2 census records (from 24 to 36).

It does look as though it's them though. Thank You!!!!  Grin
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I notice Eliza's (the mother) age doesn't add up either, there is 12 years between the 2 census records (from 24 to 36).


Not so usual for a woman's age to go up  Grin  but very common for major variations between census. I have a gggrandmother who only aged 40 years in a 60 year timeslot  Grin


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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 12:32 BST (UK) »

Tennille,

Hope you are still reading this, I have some information for you but as I am new I cannot PM you. Let me know if you are still out there.

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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 15:16 BST (UK) »

Tennille,

Hope you are still reading this, I have some information for you but as I am new I cannot PM you. Let me know if you are still out there.

Thanks

Hi CM and welcome to RootsChat. Tennille hasn't been online for quite some time - but probably selected to get a message if anyone posted on the thread - so keep your fingers crossed  Smiley

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Re: William PEARCE
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 10 September 08 15:24 BST (UK) »

Thanks Trish, only found this site today and still trawling around it, it looks really good.

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