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Request Completed- John CAPON Last seen in Lidlington
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 20:26 BST (UK) »

John Capon pos Caton ( the surname keeps changing 1784-1785) I know he married Martha, John died 1785, Martha in 1772 both in Lidlington.  Joseph pos their first child born in 1755 in Lidlington. My problem is I cannot find were John was born. I have the parish register for Lidlington 1560-1812 ( if anyone would like a look up I also have Clophill) and there is no sign of them before 1755. I think John could of been born approx 1730  So if you have a missing John in your tree or could help please.

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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 June 07 21:03 BST (UK) »

Do you have their marriage? If so could we have details please?

Just noticed your thread last year. You didn't have the marriage then. Did you check for anything in the parish chest, eg a settlement certificate which might indicate where they were from?

Even if someone has a spare John Capon there's absolutely nothing to link him to Lidlington - even then he doesn't appear to have married in Beds

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 June 07 21:16 BST (UK) »

The only marriage I have been able to find for a John & Martha is

1749 London Or Northampton St Sepulchre on the igi. When I looked at Northampton there is no Capon/caton, and no obvious match in London for John.
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 June 07 21:36 BST (UK) »

If you're struggling, as you obviously are with this, you need to follow up every lead, no matter how irrelevant it may seem. I would get the Northampton St Sepulchre microfilm from your nearest LDS and see if the marriage actually took place there, and if so whether there's any other detail. If it was 1755 you might get lucky and get a couple of witnesses as a result of the 1754 Marriage Act.

It's a pity that the IGI marriage entry is so ambiguous, but it's one of these modern batches where no source is given so there's no telling where it came
from.

Northamptonshire is very poorly covered on the IGI so just because there's nothing on there doesn't necessarily mean that they weren't from that county.

Do you know what John's occupation was?

Regards

David

PS Alternatively try a request on the Northants board for a look up in Northants Marriage Index
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 June 07 22:02 BST (UK) »

Thank you for your suggestion David and I will follow it up, as I have found that not everything is on the igi, I found a few more children in the parish reg for Joseph, John's son.  I did find a birth on the IGI for a John Capon 1730 parent's Benjamin & Sarah. In Leyton Buzzard John's eldest daughter's name is Sarah. But I think I need to find his marriage.
I do not know what his occupation was, but for many generations they seemed to of been, benvor servant's! brewery worker,drayman, so just maybe.

Thank you David

Regards Val
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 June 07 22:12 BST (UK) »

Boyd's marriage index lists that 1749 marriage as being at St Sepulchre, London.   This doesn't mean that it can't be your John and Martha - people didn't always marry near home.
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 June 07 22:34 BST (UK) »

Thank you Gallium
So London it is as the IGI was unclear London or Northampton. That helps narrow the search.

Regards Val
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 16 June 07 16:46 BST (UK) »

Val

Have a look Beds Archives search site:   
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http://blars.adlibsoft.com/beginner/indnms.html

That name seems to be linked to Leighton Buzzard prior to 1755 as you will see.  If they were this family there may be surviving Wills

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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #8 on: Monday 18 June 07 20:41 BST (UK) »

Cathy
     
Thankyou Cathy, If I could make the link between John & Leighton Buzzard Capon's I would be up & running again. On the blars site it has Capon's linked to pub's,my family right to my grandfather worked for brewery's.

Val
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 19 June 07 06:00 BST (UK) »

Next step must be to check that marriage entry in London - it may give a parish of residence other than St Sepulchre

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: John capon Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 19 June 07 19:23 BST (UK) »

Thank you David think I will post a request on the London site  in case anyone can help

Val
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Re: John CAPON Last seen in Lidlington Completed
« Reply #11 on: Monday 25 June 07 18:55 BST (UK) »

I have now found out that there is no additional information on the marriage entry Embarrassed .
Thank you all that helped.

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Re: John CAPON Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #12 on: Monday 25 June 07 20:12 BST (UK) »

Expletive deleted!

I've got quite a few lines like this that fizzle out in the mid 1700s as I just can't find where one (or both) of the parties to a marriage was from.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: John CAPON Last seen in Lidlington
« Reply #13 on: Monday 25 June 07 20:56 BST (UK) »

Yep very frustrating! But I will keep trying Roll Eyes
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