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Lookup - Lidlinton & Clophill
« on: Thursday 14 June 07 22:35 BST (UK) »

Can you do a look-up for me please. I have William Sturges-Wildman b.27/2/1821 at Lidlington to Mary Wildman b.1799. Not sure what you can look up, but is it possible to know where Mary was living in Lidlington at the time of William's birth or who his father was?

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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 June 07 22:49 BST (UK) »

Hello Carol
                Sorry I am unable to help you as the parish record's I have only go to 1812. the copy I have don't give address. but sometimes give reputed father's name.

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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 June 07 22:51 BST (UK) »

Any idea how I can find out?
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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 June 07 23:03 BST (UK) »

Hello Carol
                Perhaps you could go to the Bedford archives yourself or contact them at http://wwwbedfordshire.gov.uk/archive
They are very helpful. Have you tried Familysearch (igi). Perhap's someone will be able to help you on the request board.

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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 June 07 23:07 BST (UK) »

Thanks for your help Val, i'll try to email them.

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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 June 07 23:13 BST (UK) »

As Val suggests, the Beds Archives will have the baptism records for 1821 on microfiche, as a one off request they most likely will look it up & email the info back. However the baptism record won't have an address, just the parish they lived in. It may name the father, but most likely not, it could well say 'illegitimate'.

As  to the father, in cases like this the child is often baptised with the father's surname as a middle name. So we're looking for a Mr Sturgess, possibly William Sturgess, could it be the one chr 1799 in Barton perhaps. Just speculation on my part.

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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 June 07 23:34 BST (UK) »

That is my thought too John, but it is trying to prove that William Sturges is the father. I just wondered if there were any records that could prove this for me.

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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 June 07 23:40 BST (UK) »

Carol
I had a look on Familysearch and the fathers name is missing. And
as Mary has added the name Sturges it would suggest this is the fathers surname. And like John would think he would be named after his father, unless of course Mary's father is a William.
 
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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 June 07 23:52 BST (UK) »

I am sure that the father's name is William Sturges and I would like to follow this line on my research, if I can prove it. I think Mary's father's name was John Wildman married to Catherine Marrison. Would the Archives office have a Bastardly order which should have the father's name on?
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Re: Parish of Lidlington & Clophill
« Reply #9 on: Friday 15 June 07 05:23 BST (UK) »

Details of many Beds Bastardy Orders/Recognisances can be found on A2A on http://www.a2a.org.uk/default.asp
or on the Bedford Archives site at http://blars.adlibsoft.com/

You could also order the microfilm of Lidlington parish records, which includes some parish chest entries, from the LDS. 1821 doesn't seem to be covered according to the film notes, but you never know, as orders sometimes seem to be filmed even though they're not mentioned in the notes.

Mary seems to have giving a pretty firm indication that the father was Sturges. I'm not so certain that his first name was necessarily William though.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #10 on: Friday 15 June 07 08:36 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that. I am new to this and have managed to get into the sites but cant find the Bastardly records. If I can get into it, it will help me a lot as I have two to look up for 1821 in Bedfordshire. 
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Re: Parish of Lidlington & Clophill
« Reply #11 on: Friday 15 June 07 09:25 BST (UK) »

There isn't a specific area for bastardy on either site. Just put in a name eg Wildman and check out all the hits. You might get lucky, but only a smallish percentage of the records are indexed online so it might take a trip to Bedford to see what else they've got - or as I suggested get a copy of the microfilm at your nearest Family History Centre of the LDS

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 16 June 07 16:24 BST (UK) »

Carol

Check out Beds Archives search site as it is growing a lot now @

http://blars.adlibsoft.com/form.html

Note: Sturgess/Sturge/Sturges/Sturgis is spelt a number of ways

I'll look up any bastardy order for William c 1821 on Tuesday
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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 16 June 07 22:08 BST (UK) »

That would be useful if you could look it up for me please. I have found some information out from that website and emailed Archives, who have given me a bit more information but they want £26 for a transcript. When you are looking, could you also look for Frances Turner of Kempston, who had John in 1821. The baptism records show the father as William Tompkins. This is the same year as William Sturges-Wildman so the records should be near to one another.
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Re: Parish of Lidlinton & Clophill
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 17 June 07 05:28 BST (UK) »

If you check the A2A site that I gave you, type in Frances Turner in the keyword box, and highlight Bedford and Luton Archives etc in the Location of Archives dropdown, the first hit is the one you're looking for

Quarter Sessions Rolls - ref. QSR -1821[no date]
ref.  QSR/25/1821/165 [n.d.]
Recognizances: William Tompkins, jun., Kempston, labourer; bastardy. FRANCES TURNER

The actual item doesn't give any more information than what is shown above, or so BLARS told me when I was looking to get a copy of one in my own family.

It seems as though Frances spread her favours around as the other hit is
Quarter Sessions Rolls - ref. QSR
1824 [no date] ref.  QSR/26/1824/184 [n.d.]
Recognizances: Oliver Leech, junr., Kempston, labr; bastardy. W. FRANCES TURNER.

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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