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BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« on: Wednesday 08 December 04 01:34 GMT (UK) »

I would be grateful if someone could take a look at the 1851 &/or 1861 Census for the Bird family in Wells, Norfolk or its close vicinity.

I am attempting to trace more information about my great great great grandfather's family. A transcript from the 1871 Census lists him settled in Ipswich, Suffolk, but he was originally born & bred in Wells.

JONATHAN BIRD born 1842 / 1843 at Wells, Norfolk
aged 8 in 1851
aged 18 in 1861

In later life his occupation was always associated with the care of horses: at various times he is described as being either Groom, Ostler or Stableman.

Unfortunately, I know nothing of his parentage and would appreciate a lead.

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Suffolk Ipswich: Biggs Bird Brooks Cobbold Cocker Cooper Farman Fisk Overett Taylor Worrall
Suffolk Chelmondiston: Cooper Lucas Steward
Suffolk Hadleigh: Brook/Brooks
Suffolk Heveningham: Fisk
Suffolk Stowupland: Cobbold
Suffolk Keresy & Whatfield: Simpson
Suffolk Woolverstone: Cooper Webster
Norfolk Wells: Bird
Essex Colchester: Cocker
Essex Halstead & Buttsbury: Overett
Essex Wethersfield & Finchingfield: French
Yorkshire Leeds: Simpson Worrall
Lancashire Failsworth: Fletcher Worral
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Re: BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 December 04 12:35 GMT (UK) »

Hiya Coops,

These are the only Birds on the 1851 that were born in Wells.  Jonathan is'nt one of them i,m afraid.  I've listed them anyway just incase you can make a connection

Head: BIRD, James         Neighbors     346084
Name   Relationship   Mar   Age    Sex   Occupation    Birthplace
James  BIRD   Head   M   25   M   Rail Lab   Wells-NFK
Elizabeth  BIRD   Wife   M   29   F   ---   Souldern-OXF
Sarah  BIRD   Daur   -   1   F   ---   Souldern-OXF
William  MORGAN   Lodg   W   48   M   Rail Lab   Bristol-SOM
William  JARVIS   Lodg   M   24   M   Rail Lab   Souldern-OXF
John  GARDNER   Lodg   U   22   M   Rail Lab   Tackley-OXF
   Address:   Railway Huts, ---
   Census Place:   Fenny Compton Southam, Warwickshire
   PRO Reference:   HO/107/2077   Folio:   371   Page:   16   FHL Film:   0087346


ames  BIRD   Head   M   40   M   Fisherman   Massingham-Norfolk
Sarah  BIRD   Wife   M   34   F   ---   Wells-Norfolk
William  BIRD   Son   U   11   M   Scholar   Massingham-Norfolk
Elizabeth  BIRD   Daur   U   8   F   Scholar   Massingham-Norfolk
John  BIRD   Son   U   7   M   Scholar   Massingham-Norfolk
Mary  BIRD   Daur   U   3   F   Scholar   Massingham-Norfolk
Henry  BIRD   Son   U   6   M   Scholar   Massingham-Norfolk
   Address:   ---, Freebridge Lynn
   Census Place:   Great Massingham Freebridge Lynn, Norfolk
   PRO Reference:   HO/107/1828   Folio:   13   Page:   18   FHL Film:   0207483
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Re: BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« Reply #2 on: Friday 10 December 04 04:25 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for that Fitty - much appreciated
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Suffolk Ipswich: Biggs Bird Brooks Cobbold Cocker Cooper Farman Fisk Overett Taylor Worrall
Suffolk Chelmondiston: Cooper Lucas Steward
Suffolk Hadleigh: Brook/Brooks
Suffolk Heveningham: Fisk
Suffolk Stowupland: Cobbold
Suffolk Keresy & Whatfield: Simpson
Suffolk Woolverstone: Cooper Webster
Norfolk Wells: Bird
Essex Colchester: Cocker
Essex Halstead & Buttsbury: Overett
Essex Wethersfield & Finchingfield: French
Yorkshire Leeds: Simpson Worrall
Lancashire Failsworth: Fletcher Worral
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Re: BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« Reply #3 on: Friday 10 December 04 17:25 GMT (UK) »

Hello Coops,
I believe I have found your Jonathan Bird on the 1851 census. If you want me to look on the 1861, let me know.

Name   Relationship   Mar   Age    Sex   Occupation    Birthplace
Isaac  WIX   Head   M   45   M   Bricklayer   Wicklewood-NFK
Rebecker  WIX   Wife   M   34   F   ---   Winfarthing-NFK
John  WIX   Uncl   W   87   M   Retired Patenmaker   East Harling-NFK
Jonathen  BIRD   Lodg   U   54   M   Tailor   East Harling-NFK
Jonathen  BIRD   Lodg   U   8   M   Scholar   Well-NFK
Samuel  PLUMES   Lodg   M   85   M   Agl (Pauper)   E. Harling-NFK
Sarah  PLUMES   Lodg   M   77   F   ---   Shelfanger-NFK
   Address:   White Hart St, Guiltcross
   Census Place:   East Harling Guiltcross, Norfolk
   PRO Reference:   HO/107/1822   Folio:   351   Page:   9   FHL Film:   0207476

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Nfk-ADCOCK,BOWMAN,BRUNDLE,BULLEN,CARNELL,CLARK,CURTIS, DOWNING,DUFFIELD,DUNN,EVERETT,FINCHAM,FULLER,GAPLEY,GUYMER, HARRIS,HENSBY,HOWSE,HUBBARD,KENT,LINCOLN,MANN,MASON,MILES,
MITCHELL,NEAL,PAGE,PALMER,PIGOTT,RATTHAM,RICHES,RIX,RUST,
SCOTT,STEGGLES,THOMPSON,TILLS,WALE,WHITE
Cambs-BUZZARD,CRICK,COX,DARLEY,FLINDERS,GARRETT,GREEN, GROUNDS,HOLLINSTEAD,NORMAN,PAYNE,TYERS,WILKINSON
Sfk-BULL,COWELL,FINCHAM,MASON,TOKELOVE,TRETT
Chesh-BLACKBRUFF,BROWN,BURNS,LEAH,MAJOR,NOMEN,ROBERTS,
ROBINSON,WARING
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Re: BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 11 December 04 01:26 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the info Norfolkgal

Its definately a contender as both the age and birthplace are correct.

Curious entry though - an 8 yr old lodger? The first assumption is that the elder Johnathan is his father/grandfather but he appears to be unmarried.

I'd appreciate it if you could take a look at the 1861 Census. Bearing in mind he would have been 18 and working by that time it may help to know that his career revolved around horses: at various times he is described as being either Groom, Ostler or Stableman

Many thanks

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Suffolk Ipswich: Biggs Bird Brooks Cobbold Cocker Cooper Farman Fisk Overett Taylor Worrall
Suffolk Chelmondiston: Cooper Lucas Steward
Suffolk Hadleigh: Brook/Brooks
Suffolk Heveningham: Fisk
Suffolk Stowupland: Cobbold
Suffolk Keresy & Whatfield: Simpson
Suffolk Woolverstone: Cooper Webster
Norfolk Wells: Bird
Essex Colchester: Cocker
Essex Halstead & Buttsbury: Overett
Essex Wethersfield & Finchingfield: French
Yorkshire Leeds: Simpson Worrall
Lancashire Failsworth: Fletcher Worral
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Re: BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 11 December 04 14:08 GMT (UK) »

In 1861 the family are living at Chapel? Hill, East Harling as follows -
Jonathan Bird mar 68 Tailor master Norwich
Elizabeth Bird wife 48? Shropham?
Jonathan Bird son 18 Ag lab Wells

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Nfk-ADCOCK,BOWMAN,BRUNDLE,BULLEN,CARNELL,CLARK,CURTIS, DOWNING,DUFFIELD,DUNN,EVERETT,FINCHAM,FULLER,GAPLEY,GUYMER, HARRIS,HENSBY,HOWSE,HUBBARD,KENT,LINCOLN,MANN,MASON,MILES,
MITCHELL,NEAL,PAGE,PALMER,PIGOTT,RATTHAM,RICHES,RIX,RUST,
SCOTT,STEGGLES,THOMPSON,TILLS,WALE,WHITE
Cambs-BUZZARD,CRICK,COX,DARLEY,FLINDERS,GARRETT,GREEN, GROUNDS,HOLLINSTEAD,NORMAN,PAYNE,TYERS,WILKINSON
Sfk-BULL,COWELL,FINCHAM,MASON,TOKELOVE,TRETT
Chesh-BLACKBRUFF,BROWN,BURNS,LEAH,MAJOR,NOMEN,ROBERTS,
ROBINSON,WARING
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Re: BIRD family in WELLS 1851/1861
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 12 December 04 04:32 GMT (UK) »

Thanks for the additional info Norfolkgal – much appreciated.

Coops
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Suffolk Ipswich: Biggs Bird Brooks Cobbold Cocker Cooper Farman Fisk Overett Taylor Worrall
Suffolk Chelmondiston: Cooper Lucas Steward
Suffolk Hadleigh: Brook/Brooks
Suffolk Heveningham: Fisk
Suffolk Stowupland: Cobbold
Suffolk Keresy & Whatfield: Simpson
Suffolk Woolverstone: Cooper Webster
Norfolk Wells: Bird
Essex Colchester: Cocker
Essex Halstead & Buttsbury: Overett
Essex Wethersfield & Finchingfield: French
Yorkshire Leeds: Simpson Worrall
Lancashire Failsworth: Fletcher Worral
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