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Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« on: Friday 15 June 07 16:13 BST (UK) »

I was hoping you could look for a baptism for Richard Perrett and George Perrett (spellings may vary) born around 1826 and 1823 respectively. Parents could be John and ?.

There is a son that was born later, around 1860, to Richard but I have that info.

Thank you
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Re: HINDON Baptisms and Burials for Perrett
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 June 07 17:16 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat

George Perrett Christened 25 May 1823 Hindon Wiltshire
Parents were John and Ann
FHL Film 1279339

I have not found Richard but there was a Frances Jane Peratt Christened in Hindon 14 November 1830 to a John and Ann.

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Re: HINDON Baptisms and Burials for Perrett
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 June 07 01:43 BST (UK) »

Richard Perrett is listed to be born in Salisbury C/1826. Try St. Martin Parish. John Perrett and Ann Masters were supposed to have married in that Parish in1820.
 Can anyone find burial for AnnPerrett  in Hindon? also John Perrett[aka]Parret] in Hindon. Both are found alive in 1851 Census.
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 June 07 08:51 BST (UK) »

Hi,

Welcome to Rootschat Bunty3Back, I assume you are researching the same family as Shaunadavid Smiley

John Parrett married Ann Masters 7 August 1820 St Martin Salisbury
FHL Film 1279368

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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 June 07 11:35 BST (UK) »

Hi all,

One of my relations was John Perrett married Ann masters at Salisbury St Martin 1820 They had a son George b 1823 (my relation) and another son Richard 1827/28.
I am looking for Johns parents as well.
John Perrett has also been referred to as John Parret , bachelor of Fonthill Bishop.

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Perretts from Wiltshire. Around Fonthill Gifford, Fonthill Bishop and Hindon.
John Perrett and Ann Masters
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 June 07 12:25 BST (UK) »

1841 census HO107 1175/7 folio 6
Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire
John Perrett 40 Shoemaker
Ann Perrett 45 
George Perrett 15 
Richard Perrett 9
all born Wiltshire 

1851 census HO107 1849 folio 358
Dean Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire
George Perrett 28 Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire Head Unmarried Baker
Richard Perrett 24 Salisbury Wiltshire Brother Unmarried Baker
Ann Perrett 64 Berwick St Johns Wiltshire Mother Married Shoemaker's wife 

next door

John Perrett 54  Fonthill Bishop Wiltshire Head Married Shoemaker
Sarah Snook 45  Fovant Wiltshire Unmarried Housekeeper
Marcy Snook 14  Fovant Wilshire Visitor
Emmalina Snook 4 East Knoyle Wiltshire Visitor
John Perrett Snook 11 Months Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire   

Fonthill Bishop parish registers have no coverage on the IGI.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/

Besides George's baptism in Hindon there are these baptisms for parents John and Ann

PERATT, Mary Jane   
Christening Date:5 Aug 1821 Hindon, Wiltshire
Father:John PERATT
Mother:Anne

PERATT, Frances Jane   
Christening Date:14 Nov 1830    Hindon, Wiltshire
Father:John PERATT
Mother:Ann

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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 June 07 12:48 BST (UK) »

1861 census RG9 1294 folio 36
Shurmold? Melksham  Wiltshire 
John Perrett 64 Warminster Wiltshire Head Married Shoemaker

2 households away

Acre
Sarah Snook  54 Fovant, Wiltshire,  Head Widow Lodging Housekeeper
Mary Snook 21  Fovant, Wiltshire,  Daughter 
Albert Snook  17  Fovant, Wiltshire,  Son Factory Boy 
Emmeline Snook  14 Tebury, Wiltshire, Daughter 
John Snook 10  Fonthill Gifford, Wiltshire,  Son
plus 9 lodgers

Possible death registrations

Deaths Mar 1863
PERRETT  John     Melksham  5a 83

Deaths Sep 1859 
PERROTT  Ann     Tisbury  5a 143

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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 19 June 07 01:56 BST (UK) »

Thank-you Francis, Valda, & Chris.
I believe there were two John & Ann Perrett families at this time & Mary Jane  &  Francis Jane belonged to the other couple, any feed back? All I have been able to find are the two sons for our John & Ann, and then the baby listed as John Perrett Snook, in '51 census 
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 19 June 07 04:25 BST (UK) »

Thank you so much for all this info. Chris, I didn't know that about John. Where did you find that tidbit out. The things that come out in genealogy sure make it better than reading any book. LOL

But seriously, thank you very much everyone that has helped!
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 21 June 07 02:30 BST (UK) »

found a site which stated that the West Country had a strong tradition of non conformity.
Could someone explain this please? I am searching from Canada, and am not sure what is meant by non-conformity
Is that why finding information is so difficult--because BMD are not found in Family Search  at Salt Lake, LDS library.
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #10 on: Friday 22 June 07 19:29 BST (UK) »

Bunty3Black

Which do you mean - births, marriages and deaths as in the civil registration which began 1st July 1837, or baptisms, marriages and burials as found in parish registers?

If you mean the latter can you specify what source/s you have tried? Have you been to Wiltshire Record Office for instance where most Wiltshire parish registers from the C19th and before are deposited, or are you relying IGI online index (Family Search) which has about an 18% coverage of Wiltshire parish registers both Church of England and non-conformist registers (not conforming to the Church of England e.g Methodists, Baptists, Congregationalists).

What evidence do you have for there being two John and Ann Perretts in Hindon in the 1820s? Have you looked at the actual baptismal entries which give the father's occupation?

shaunadavid

'I didn't know that about John. Where did you find that tidbit out.'

Can you specify what in particular is the information you want to find the source for? Are you asking this question of me or Chris?

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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #11 on: Friday 22 June 07 19:42 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the reply, Valda.
I live in Canada and when I need to find a BMD I go to my local LDS Family History Center, they help me find the Cert # for my ancestor and I remit money and info to the appropriate record office to which I have been directed. I have found two John & Ann referred to in Census  different DOB. different family members. The only family members I have found are George & Richard until Baby John Perrett Snook in1851 Census. I really am confused as there are so many name repeats.
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #12 on: Friday 22 June 07 20:23 BST (UK) »

FreeBMD have transcribed (done by volunteers, so you must always check the original General Registry Office index) the GRO index

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

The coverage of the GRO index by FreeBMD can be checked here

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progress.shtml

The original quarterly/yearly GRO index can be accessed for free here.

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/progress.shtml

When you have a full reference from the index you can order a certificate directly from the GRO online.

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

This applies only for the civil registration for England and Wales.

The 1851 census actually gives 5 John and Ann Perretts with Wiltshire connections, besides the couple you are interested in - two living in Wiltshire, but the rest elsewhere (though all the Johns were born in Wiltshire). That shows John and Ann Perretts were not a particularly rare combination. Of the other John and Ann of potentially the right age on the 1851 census, they are in Somerset - all their children were born outside Wiltshire in Somerset.

Which John and Ann Perrett on a census do you think were also in Hindon, and other than the combination of their two names why do you think they were actually in Hindon in the 1820s?

What evidence is there that Mary Jane and Frances Jane's parents were not the same couple who were the parents of Richard and George?

If either of the two girls survived childhood than by the time of the 1841 census Mary Jane would have been 20 and likely to be working away from home as a servant, if not already married. Frances Jane would have been 11. Have you found a Frances Perrett of the right age on the 1841 census with a John or Ann or both?

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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 23 June 07 21:43 BST (UK) »

Thank-you for all the help, Valda. Much appreciated.
I have been searching Ancestry.Uk data base.
1841 census lists PL. of B. as Fonthill Bishop[C/1797]For John Perrett. I joined the Perrett Society several yrs back but the only extra info was the Marriage -1820- at Salisbury, Wilts. also that John was a shoe/Boot maker.
and that wife was Ann Masters.
As you found, family was living [1841] at Fonthill Gifford' John age 40; Ann age 45; George age 15; Richard age 9;
1851 Census- Shows Ann, Geo. Richard at one address and John as Neighbour living with Sarah Snook & baby John Perrett Snook is added
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Re: Hindon Baptisms and Burials for PERRETT
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 24 June 07 03:29 BST (UK) »

HI Valda, Wow, you sure know your sites.  I will also search these sites. As for the comment on which you asked for clarification, it was addressed to Chris.

"Chris, I didn't know that about John. Where did you find that tidbit out.", but I am still waiting for a response. I was hoping for some more interesting info about the family. Wink

But thanks for asking. shaunadavid
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