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balerno, missing street.
« on: Saturday 16 June 07 20:39 UTC (UK) »

does anyone know if this street ever existed in Balerno "ORR VALE"
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 26 June 07 02:11 UTC (UK) »

wozzle

Where is Balerno. Do you mean Balerno in Edinburgh ?

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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 26 June 07 05:29 UTC (UK) »

yes it is balerno in edinburgh that i mean. My wife used to live there when she was very young and she seems to remember her aunties talking about it.
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 26 June 07 16:58 UTC (UK) »

Hi Wozzle

Orr Vale isn't appearing on any city maps in present or past. However I think is worth getting in touch with the City Council as they will hold all past records -  planning department I think is best bet. I've done same with Renfrewshire Council because places have disappeared where my lot used to live and they found them for me.

Here is there email addy http://www.edinburgh.gov.uk/internet

Good Luck!

Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 26 June 07 19:19 UTC (UK) »

Ann
thanks for the information. I will be getting in touch with the Edinburgh City Council.
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 27 June 07 13:09 UTC (UK) »

Hi Wozzle,

I have searched the address on 1841 to 1901 census returns and no result. I have also checked old maps.co.uk, and can find no address. Can this be the name of one of the large houses in the area?
Sorry could not help.

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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 27 June 07 15:42 UTC (UK) »

the place Orr Vale that my wife remembers is from about 1953-1958. She says that she was also told about a restaurant called Whinrig. I suppose Orr vale could have been spelt Horvale or similar. Does anybody remember the restaurant.
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 27 June 07 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Wozzle,

Whinrig Restaurant,
 7.9 miles from West Linton (Peeblesshire)
 01314493848
 Mansfield Road, Balerno, EH14 7JX
 
From the Evening News,
Eaterie swallowed up
A RESTAURANT near the Capital is set to be knocked down to make way for a house.

The former Whinrig restaurant on Mansfield Road in Balerno is to be demolished and a house and garage built in its place

after planning chiefs approved the plans, subject to a series of conditions.

This article: http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/edinburgh.cfm?id=249092006

Last updated: 17-Feb-06 12:42 BST


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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 27 June 07 22:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi wozzle,

http://www.buittle.org.uk/sailors.htm

THE Water of Orr is called the River Urr by modern geographers, but why they changed its spelling it would he difficult to say. It is also called the Winding Orr because of its numerous bends and twistings, and its valley is called "The Lovely Vale of Orr'," well known in song and story.

Follow the link for full article,

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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #9 on: Friday 02 January 09 01:01 UTC (UK) »

Hi Wozzle

Orrvale, Balerno was a small street in the middle of the old village and my father told me that it was named after his Great Grandmother, Euphemia (Messer) Orr.  In 1901 Euphemia was living in Smith's Buildings, Balerno.  I assume that she was still there when the council decided to knock down the old houses and put up new housing. My GG Grandmother didn't want to leave her old house and stubbornly refused to move.  I think her house was the last one standing in the row but, of course, the authorities won in the end and she had to move out.  But the new street was named Orrvale in recognition of her last stand, so to speak.   She died in Orrvale in 1924. 

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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #10 on: Friday 22 May 09 21:19 UTC (UK) »

In reply to the last post, Euphemia Orr (nee Messer) of Balerno, d. 1924 was also my GG grandmother.  Her son, William Orr was my G Grandfather, and his son, David Orr my Grandfather. It would be great to get in touch, or get any more information about this family line.
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #11 on: Friday 22 May 09 22:12 UTC (UK) »

Hello Rowan43

I am the great granddaughter of Helen ORR (1869-1962), daughter of Euphemia (Messer) ORR.
I have a lot of bmd information about the ORRs.  I can't put my email address on here and need to work out a way to contact you via your email address, off list.  There is a way.  I just don't know yet how to do it!

Rhoda
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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #12 on: Friday 22 May 09 23:19 UTC (UK) »

There is a way. I just don't know yet how to do it!
Rhoda

Hi Rhoda

I believe you need to make 3 postings and then you should be able to send a PM (private message) by clicking on the small green scroll to the left of Rowan43's message.

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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 22 May 09 23:26 UTC (UK) »

JustMeg

Thanks! 


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Re: balerno, missing street.
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 23 May 09 16:17 UTC (UK) »

Hi Rhoda,
It was great to get your quick response - I'm looking forward to making contact, but unfortunately for some reason, it won't allow me to view your personal message - says I've exceeded my personal limit of messages ??
Perhaps I, too, need to make 3 postings to receive your PM? 
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