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MonicaLesl
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Hi Raylen
These are the only entries coming up in Stirlingshire to parents with those names (mother is showing as Mary DOBBIE). All records are submitted entries on IGI with exception of the christening for Elizabeth 1837. Dates are quite specific so you may well find corresponding entries on Scotlands People OPR index:
1. ELIZABETH DOWNIE CHRISTIE Birth: 13 JUL 1827 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
2. WILLIAM CHRISTIE Birth: 29 JAN 1830 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
3. JANET CHRISTIE Birth: 18 SEP 1832 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
4. ANDREW CHRISTIE Birth: APR 1835 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
5. ELIZABETH DOWNIE CHRISTIE Christening: 13 JUL 1837 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
6. ROBERT CHRISTIEBirth: 20 SEP 1837 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
7. JOHN CHRISTIE Birth: 17 OCT 1840 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
Depending on which line you are following, hopefully a check on the censuses will let you confirm birth place.
Regards.
Monica
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Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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There is also a marriage, actual extract from the OPRs that would correspond:
ROBERT CHRISTIE Marriages: Spouse: MARY DOBBIE
Marriage: 03 JUL 1825 Saint Ninians, Stirling, Scotland
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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joekar
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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trying to help a little my friend, here is what maybe be a kick start.
1841 census- st ninian's, bannockburn
mary-35
elizabeth-13-tartan weaver
william-11
janet-9
andrew-7
robert-4
john-7 months
all born st ninian's
1851 census- bannockburn
mary-head-age 46-tartan weaver
janet-dau-age18-tartan weaver
andrew-son-age 16-tartan weaver
robert-son-age 13-weaver's assistant
all born bannockburn
robert marries margaret williamson in dunfermline on the 11/10/1858
they have; margaret 28/9/1858
william 4/10/1860
jane anderson 3/6/1865
ann 3/5/1868
andrew williamson 28/7/1870
robert 24/5/1874
mary 1878
james 1884
wilhelmina 1885
1861 census- 24 lower bridge, stirling
robert-head-24-railway engine driver
1861 census- albany, dunfermline
andrew williamson-head-age 54-railway labourer
mary williamson-dau-age 19-housekeeper
margaret christie-dau-age 22
margaret christie-grand-daughter-age 3
william christie-grandson-age 6 months
thomas christie-nephew-age 10 born inverkeithing
now it seems that janet went to usa and got married to a smith
1861 census-coal wynd, stirling
mary-head-age 56-woolen weaver
janet-dau-age 28
andrew-son-age 26
william smith-grandson-age 2-born usa
now andrew marries mary spunt 19/11/1865, they have children
isabella-17/9/1866
robert- 19/6/1868
john sprunt-2/12/1870
1871 census- southside old road, stirling
andrew-head-age 35-wollen weaver
mary-wife-age 28
isabella-dau-age 4
robert-son-age 2
john-son-age 4 months
1871 census- 15 lower bridge st, stirling
robert-head-age 35-railway engine driver
margaret-wife-age 32
margaret-dau-age 12
william-son-age 10
jane-dau-age 5
ann-dau- age 2
andrew-son-age 8 months
1881 census- old road, stirling
andrew-46-woolen weaver
isabella-14--housekeeper
robert-12
john-10
1881 census- 91 lower road, stirling
margaret-42
margaret-22-dressmaker
william-20-coach smith
jane-15-shop girl
ann-12
andrew-10
robert-6
mary-3
1891 census- 105 lower bridge street, stirling
margaret-52
william-30-blacksmith
jane-25
andrew-20-cooper
robert-16-coach wheeler
mary-13-domestic servant
james-6
wilhelmina-age 5
1891 census- orchard farm, bannockburn
andrew-head-age 56-farmer
sarah-wife- age 58
robert-son-age 22-ploughman
john-son-ploughman
mary-dau-age 10
plus 4 farm servants
1901 census- orchard farm, bannockburn
andrew-head-age 65-farmer
sarah-wife-age 63
robert-son-age 32- farm servant
john-son-age 30-farm servant
mary-dau-age 20
1901 census- 105 lower bridge street, stirling
jane-head-age 36-housekeeper
william-brother-age 41-blacksmith
andrew-brother-age30-cooper
robert-brother-age 27-fisherman
wilhelmina-sister-age 15-domestic nurse
happy hunting
Joe
william-son-age 10
jane-dau-age 5
ann-dau-age 2
andrew-son-age 8 months
1871 census- north side old road, stirling
mary-head-age 66-yarn spinner
janet smith-dau-38-steam loom weaver
william smith-grandson-age 12
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MonicaLesl
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Raylen
It's hard to piece it together as there does not seem to be any Old Parish Register entries for the children as you show. From your first post:
Robert Christie born abt 1833
Samuel Christie born abt 1829
John Christie born abt 1841
also maybe an Alexander Christie -birth date unknown
all born Stirling,Scotland.
Children of Robert Christie and Mary (maiden name unknown).
The only marriage of a Robert Christie that I have found is the one I posted to a Mary Dobbie and the children from IGI.
There are a couple of entries on the 1841 census which I am not sure if you have seen:
Isabella Christie 55, farmer
Samuel Christie 16, ag. lab
Alexander Christie 8, ag. lab
Jean Cochran 15
George Cunning 40
George Clevenson 15
Ann Canns 15
Address: West Hillton Cower, St Ninians, Stirlingshire
All the Christies show as born in the county. From the ages of the Samuel and Alexander above, they would likely be g/children to Isabella (no relationships within the household are given in the 1841 census). This is the only Samuel Christie that I can see on the 1841 index with a birth year of 1829 +/- 5yrs in Stirlingshire.
There is also another entry in 1841 for a Robert Christie:
Robert Christie 35, cabinet maker
Marcy Christie 35
John Christie 3
Robert Christie 1
Address: Lower Bridge Street, St Ninians, Stirlingshire
The age for for everyone over 15 were supposed to be rounded down to the nearest five years, children are supposed to show their actual age (not always the case as shown by the entry for Samuel above who shows as age 16 so born in 1825). The Robert and Marcy above could be aged anywhere between 35-39. The main problem with this entry is the age of Robert child b. 1840 which from what you have posted would not fit in age for the Robert who died in 1863 (I assume you have taken his birth year from his age at death).
I'll see what I can find for them in 1851 which contains a bit more personal info, and to whether anything is clearer.
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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Raylen
I haven't got any answers here, just posting info as I find it.
This looks like a possibility for the Robert born c. 1833 in the 1851 Census going by his occupation:
Robert Christie, 16, Smith's apprentice, b. St Ninians - living at the McLay household (William McLay, blacksmith)
Address: Cowie, St Ninians
And a possibility for Samuel born c. 1829:
Samuel Christie 22, farmer servant. born n/k (not known? - you would have to check the original to see what it says if anything for birth place) Stirlingshire. He's working at the Moffat farm, Address: Westfield Farm, Cumbernaul Dumbartonshire
And lastly, Robert Snr. the cabinet maker:
Robert Christie 49, cabinet maker, b. Stirling
Margaret Christie 44, b. Stirling
John Christie 12, b. Stirling
Margaret Christie 7, b. Stirling
Address: Lower Bridge Street, Stirling
Raylen, always a possibility that Robert above may be on to a second marriage with Margaret (probably Marcy was mistranscribed in 1841?) and that mother/wife Mary died mid 1830s.
What info if any do you have on potential brothers John and Alexander?
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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MonicaLesl
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1861 Census and now I'm getting v. confused  Robert the cabinetmaker's wife's names:
1841: Marcy
1851: Margaret
1861: Mary
His entry:
Robert Christie 58 cabinet maker
Mary Christie 53, b. St Ninians
Margret Christie 16, b. Stirling
Address: 20 Belfield, New House, St Ninians
Can't easily see Robert Snr. in 1871.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
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