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vwatts
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Hello everyone. I'm new here. I am in South Africa and am trying to get info on an ancestor who was born (according to census records 1841-1871) in Great Missenden, Bucks. She was called Mary Nash and married James Watts ca. 1830.
Could anybody please help me with her parents' names and birthdate? I don't have access to church records.
Any help will be very much appreciated. I can help with info on South African relatives.
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Welcome VWatts - as luck would have it, Great Missenden is in the IGI - the Latter Day Saints site, subset for parish records ...
Search it with this 'front-end' - http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/
Click on England, then County - Bucks - then go straight to the 'Gs' .... and click on the batch number for Births.... Marriages are also there.
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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Thanks! Next question is how does one know with these old records that a record is for the right person I'm looking for?
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By seeing if you get a match with the early census ... for age and birthplace .... known siblings etc. Rememebering that age is typically rounded down to a 5 year multiple in 1841.
A process of elimination overall ....
so, as she was married by 1841, I see her with James in the 1851, stating 1800 as her birth year - do any of those Gt Missenden IGI records match (roughly at least ?) ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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she had a son (James) in 1832, another in 1836 (Charles Frederick) and a daughter in 1838 (Martha). The latter enabled me to get Mary's maiden name. She married James Watts, I assume, in 1830-1832 somewhere.
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Try searching the IGI for a marriage prior to 1832 (James jnr was born 1832, Roydon)
It isnt in her home Parish as far as I could see....
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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Hi .... back to IGI there is a marriage submitted by a member for a marriage of....
Mary Nash to James Watts 26 July 1830 at Stansted Mountfitchet Essex.
If this ties into the family being in Essex for the birth of the children an entry may be in the parish records for their marriage ie Of this parish/ name of father.
I have found some parishes in Bucks where the clerk/vicar has been very note worthy in keeping his records..even to the insulting. This of course does not count for all churches.
Tazzie
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Liscoe -all Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks. Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London Rewallin/Underwood -Devon Casbolt-London/Cambridge Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Tazzie, thanks, yes I also found this record, but how will I know it's the right one? Their first son James was indeed born in Essex (Roydon) as you said, but the other two in Hertfordshire. (Charles in Eastwick and Martha in Bengeo).
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LOL - indeed !
Back in Great Missenden .... no Mary Nash christened (all extracted records btw) 1795 - 1802.... only a couple of Fannys .....
The closest is 1806 - which is strange given that in 1861 she says she was born 1798 ...
the thot plickens 
Nash was sourced from young Martha's Birth Cert ? - its clearly Nash ? no chance of a mis-quote ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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Could she have married at 17?
Mary Nash bap 6 june 1813 Father George
mother Ann
What age is she on the census...is it consistant?
Tazzie
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Liscoe -all Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks. Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London Rewallin/Underwood -Devon Casbolt-London/Cambridge Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds This information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Yes, birth cert. of June 1838 was very clear. I "X"ash: CASH? DASH HASH? MASH? RASH I was really sure it's an "N". From the census (as Mary Watts) of 1841, 1851 her age seems to vary. Perhaps we need to look 1794-1806?
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Probably the 1806 lass then - parents CHARLES and MARTHA - rings bells ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK 1850, Carlisle KEW 1814, Carlisle |
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okay, i just checked: She was born (according to 1841 and 1861 census ) between 1797 and 1801. She died before 1891 census. I'm pretty sure the birth cert. says Nash.
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1806 - Charles, Martha!? Wow, i hope that's the one, but then her age was incorrect on all the census forms. could that be?
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