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comfort
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hi
can anyone please help
i have a james brown on the 1871 census, born about 1798, urr kirkcudbright,
his address is meikle dalbeattie,
can anyone tell me what part of scotland that is. also he is a farmer of 290 acres, and i was trying to find if there would be any photos of this farm,
he is married to isabella,but i cant find her maiden name. can anyone surgest how i could find out ,
any help would be welcome
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patricia,
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Gadget
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Hi Patricia 
Urr is towards the east of Kirkcudbrightshire in the South West of Scotland:
http://scotlandsfamily.com/parish-map-wigtown.htm
Dalbeattie is about 6 miles east of Castle Douglas - see www.multimap.co.uk Grid Ref NX833614 or just put Dalbeatttie into the search field.
You might be able to locate the farm by using www.old-maps.co.uk and doing a search for Dalbeattie and then panning around the area.
Regards
Gadget
Added - re finding his wife's name. You could search for a marriage on the IGI www.familysearch.org or you might locate his or her death certificate on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk Scottish death certs usually give the spouse's name and also their parents.
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hi,
thank you so very much for all the advice, this is a great help
and i appreciate it very much
thank you
patricia.
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Gadget
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Hi Patricia
I've found Isabella's death cert - 21 Sept 1883 at 35 Main St, Dalbeattie. She was 67 yrs and married to James Brown, retired farmer. her parents were Jonathan Beattie, master cooper, dec. and Nicholas, maiden surname Carruthers, dec.
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Gadget
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hi cadget,
thank you for this, i am over the moon,
you have done a great job.
to be honest i dont think that i could have found this, so i am very greatfull
thank you once again
patricia.
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Gadget
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Hi Patricia
Happy to be of help. Do you have all you need on James and any children, etc.?
Gadget
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hi gadget,
i have him with his wife isabella and 14 children and if i am right
james parents were william brown and jean henry,
and that is as far as i can get,i have
got to james through his son ebenezer, who came to sheffield england and married a sheffield girl, thank you for your help.
it is very kind of you
patricia.
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Patricia
Going back to your first post, Isabella's surname was BEATTIE going by the children born post official reg. in 1855:
1. ANN BROWN Birth: 13 FEB 1856 Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
2. ALEXANDER BROWN Birth: 19 JUN 1858 Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
These children together with the rest of the family show in Dalbeattie in 1861.
Regards.
Monica
Sorry Gadget - just realised you had this info posts back (must remember to read all post thoroughly....!)
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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MonicaLesl
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Their marriage:
JAMES BROUN Marriages: Spouse: ISOBELLA BEATTIE
Marriage: 20 NOV 1835 Urr, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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hi
thank you for the marriage,
and thank you to everyone for your kind help.
patricia.
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MonicaLesl
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Just thought you might find this interesting/relevant
From the 1921/2 Post Office Directory are these two references to Meikle Dalbeattie:
Scott, Barbara, farmer, Meikle Dalbeattie.
Little, Anthony, byreman, Meikle Dalbeattie Cottage.
www.buittle.org.uk/neworder/families/directory1.htm
And you also have from www.dalbeattie.com/history/dbthist.htm
The First Records of Dalbeattie :
The 1627 Statistical Account of Urr Parish refers to the farms of 'Mekle Dalbetie' and Litle Dalbetie', and to the village of 'Cunningham' or 'Conynghame'. Cunningham was sited at the top of Barr Hill, near where the Dalbeattie Burn rapids descend to the valley floor, and beside the sites of the first of the mills. The area was later to have a terrace of cottages named 'Sunnyside', in one of which William Murdoch was born. There also appears to have been a tiny hamlet, - which may have been called 'Dalbetie', - near the point where the High Street bridge crosses Dalbeattie Burn.
The major landholders north of Dalbeattie Burn were the Maxwell family, and the 'Maxwell Arms' is probably the oldest public house in the town. South of the Burn, the majority of the later town's site was owned by the Copland or Copeland family. Both families had their main houses in the Haugh of Urr area, and both were to have a key influence over the development of Dalbeattie.
The 1647 map of Timothy Pont and the 1789 map of John Ainslie contain a large number of inaccuracies, not least being that Meikle Dalbeattie Farm is shown to the south of the Burn, and Little Dalbeattie Farm to the north. In fact, the names are the other way around. Little Dalbeattie Farm was to change its name to 'Waterside', 'Nether Place' and 'Glenshalloch', before it and its remaining lands finally were built over in the 1940s
Regards.
Monica
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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hi monica.
thank you for this information,and taking the time, i am really gratfull for everything,
must be my lucky day to day,
thank you
patricia.
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