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Topic: **COMPLETED GERMANY: Shurley- Braunsbach, Wurttemberg** (Read 551 times)
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WoodElf
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Hi all,
I am researching my mother's side of the family and one of her ancestors was born in Braunsbach, Wurttemberg. I was hoping if anyone could give me a website about family history in Wurttemberg. Also, I am having trouble actually determining when she emigrated to England. Her name is Maria "M?" Barbara Shürley and was born on the 1st April 1844 (April Fool's  ). I know she has a brother, John. Is there a site I could go to about German immigrants to England? Any help with sites would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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McKinnon, McLachlan, Cameron (Fort William area, SCO; SA, Aus); Mewett (Sussex; SA, Aus); Parker (Somerton, Somerset; SA, Aus); Walsh/e (Bouladuff, Tipperary; NSW, Aus); Hill (Northampton; Middlesex, ENG); Hughes (Northampton, ENG); Madrers (ROM; Yorkshire, ENG; NSW, Aus); Knoblauch, Schürle (Kocherstetten/Braunsbach, GER; Yorkshire, ENG), Pratt (Cullompton, Devon; Brighton, Sussex, ENG; Aus); McGrath (Sydney, NSW)
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CatOne
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The family are also on the 1871 census, so probably arrived in the 1860's as I havent yet found them on 1861 census...
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Checked freebmd for 'Schurle', I find:
Johann Friedrich Schurle, married Sep q. 1865 in Hull. Elise is 'Elise Caroline Niderl__thier '
Maria Magdalena B Schurle, married 1873 in Hull;
Also I think I've spotted what might be their mother? If somebody could have a quick peek for these in the 1871...
1881, 33 Moxon St Kingston-upon-Hull
Margaret Bosse, head, widow, 57, b. Brannsbach, Germany, charwoman
Amelia, dau, 16, b. Hull
Caroline Hurley, 70, mother, widow, b. Kooher... Staten, Germany (widow of sailor).
A Caroline Shurley died later in 1881, in Hull (freebmd).
A Frederick Julius Bosse married possibly Margaret Sherle or Sturle (spellings as in freebmd), 1860 in Hull
He may have died (as 'Julius Bosse') in 1871 (again, from freebmd)
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CatOne
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1871 RG10/4790 Folio 39 Page 25
30 Moxon Street, Holy Trinity, Myton, Yorks
Julius Bosse 52 Shoemaker Germany
Margarette 41 Gothenburg
Amelia 6 Scholar Hull
Antonie 9 Scholar Hull
Regards
Catherine 
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In 1871 theres also a Rosa Schurley 18 General Servant b. Wurtemburg Germany in the house of Oswald Fris Smith (Corn Merchant from Denmark) and family
West Sculcoates, Yorkshire
RG10/4783 Folio 141 Page 17
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Found in 1861:
RG9/3565 f. 4 p. 3
Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull
9 Mary's Place
Julius Bosse, 44, shoemaker, b. Prussia Berlin, naturalized British subject
Margaretta, 33, b. Wurtemberg, dit.
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Births -
Henry R Shurley June 1866 Ripon Vol 9a Page 67
( Death? Henry Rudolph Shurley March 1867 Vol 9a Page 61)
"Poulina" Carolina Shurley September 1867 Hull Vol 9d Page 193
Johann Julius Schurle March 1869 Hull Vol 9d Page 218
Eliza Caroline Shurley March 1870 Ripon Vol 9a Page 69
Ernstini Luose Shurley March 1872 Sculcoates Vol 9d Page 170
Emma Julia Shurley September 1874 Sculcoates Vol 9d Page 185
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I think it should be Catherine Shurley with the Bosse family in 1881 and heres the reference for her death -
Catherine Shurley June 1881 Hull Vol 9d Page 145 Age 70
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Elise Caroline's surname in the actual index appears to be Niederleithner, and in the 1891 theres this family, I wonder if they are related -
RG12/2616 Folio 67 Page 39
195 Cleethorpe Road, Great Grimsby, Lincolnshire
Augusta Niederleithner widow 46 Pork Butcher Germany
Louisa dau 22 Hull
Amelia dau 18 Great Grimsby
Adolphe son 17 Do Great Grimsby
Frederick son 13 Great Grimsby
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WoodElf
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Thank you all for your help. I am mainly focussed on Maria Barbara Shurley as she was my 3rd great-grandmother. I now know that one of her middle names was Magdalena. I have no idea about the religion. However I have an inkling that with the name, Maria Magdalena Barbara Schurle, she may be Catholic. Thanks for the links. I believe that the surname Schurle will help with my further research.  Maybe the surname was Anglicised when they came to England.
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McKinnon, McLachlan, Cameron (Fort William area, SCO; SA, Aus); Mewett (Sussex; SA, Aus); Parker (Somerton, Somerset; SA, Aus); Walsh/e (Bouladuff, Tipperary; NSW, Aus); Hill (Northampton; Middlesex, ENG); Hughes (Northampton, ENG); Madrers (ROM; Yorkshire, ENG; NSW, Aus); Knoblauch, Schürle (Kocherstetten/Braunsbach, GER; Yorkshire, ENG), Pratt (Cullompton, Devon; Brighton, Sussex, ENG; Aus); McGrath (Sydney, NSW)
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Hi,
I found out when the brother of Maria came out to England. I noticed the Schuerle spelling, it has made me think about varying the surname when searching. So far it has changed from Shurley, Schurle etc.
Wuerttemberg, Germany Emigration Index
about Johann Friedrich Schuerle
DISTRICT: Kuenzelsau
Name: Schuerle, Johann Friedrich
Birth Date: 29 Sep 1840
Birth Place: Braunsbach
Application Date: Aug 1860
Destination: England
Number: 835757
Thanks for your help everyone
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McKinnon, McLachlan, Cameron (Fort William area, SCO; SA, Aus); Mewett (Sussex; SA, Aus); Parker (Somerton, Somerset; SA, Aus); Walsh/e (Bouladuff, Tipperary; NSW, Aus); Hill (Northampton; Middlesex, ENG); Hughes (Northampton, ENG); Madrers (ROM; Yorkshire, ENG; NSW, Aus); Knoblauch, Schürle (Kocherstetten/Braunsbach, GER; Yorkshire, ENG), Pratt (Cullompton, Devon; Brighton, Sussex, ENG; Aus); McGrath (Sydney, NSW)
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WoodElf
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I think she was Catholic, but I really do not have any idea of her religion. I am researching all areas.
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McKinnon, McLachlan, Cameron (Fort William area, SCO; SA, Aus); Mewett (Sussex; SA, Aus); Parker (Somerton, Somerset; SA, Aus); Walsh/e (Bouladuff, Tipperary; NSW, Aus); Hill (Northampton; Middlesex, ENG); Hughes (Northampton, ENG); Madrers (ROM; Yorkshire, ENG; NSW, Aus); Knoblauch, Schürle (Kocherstetten/Braunsbach, GER; Yorkshire, ENG), Pratt (Cullompton, Devon; Brighton, Sussex, ENG; Aus); McGrath (Sydney, NSW)
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Her marriage certificate should hopefully clear this point up, as it will tell you which church she married in (unless she had a registry office marriage).
The emigration record is interesting because I don't think Braunsbach was in Künzelsau district. (At least, it's not today). It's nearby, though - perhaps the family moved to a larger town before they emigrated?
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