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solitaire
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Does anyone know if 38 Avon Street, Walcot, Bath, Somerset still exists or any of its tenants around 1900s? My late father Sidney Young was born there on 29/07/1909, one of twins to Charles and Emily Young(Emily formerly Wheeler). We are trying to establish where both Charles and Emily were, both before and after this date, but not having much luck. This address is the only definite info we have regarding my paternal grandparents. There are so many Charles Youngs and Emily Wheelers it's like looking for a needle in a haystack, but perhaps someone local in this area could do a lookup, if they would be so kind. I have had some feedback on my queries, but nothing so far has turned up anything positive(many thanks to those who have taken the time and trouble to reply to me) I do know my grandfather came north with my father to either Manchester or Salford when my father was a lad, bringing my aunts Joanna and Ellen(poss Helen) too, but there were 8 or 9 children in all. I would love to know what happened to the ones he didn't bring with him. I know my late mother met Charles Young before she married my dad, but she didn't tell us anything about him apart from that he was a Slater Journeyman by trade and walked very upright and straight. He was deceased according to my parents' marriage certificate(they married Sep 11, 1939), but I don't know when he died. My father never spoke of his parents or siblings, so we have no info at all to go on apart from the Avon Street address. Help! Anyone.
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Mary Young
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mikej
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I am not sure if 38 Avon Street is still there,but most of it has gone. My mothers family were from there, a lot of the people were move to the suburbs before ww2.
I believe this was part of social engineering known as slum clearance. Most of the poeple that lived in the lower end of Avon Street work as street traders and hawkers from the early 1900 onwards. My grandfather had a business in the next street Milk Street in the 50 and 60's. hope this helps some.
Mikej
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paulanthony
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Hi there,
I live 5 minutes from bath central Library and i will go there for you to search the census for Charles & Emily Young in the 1841-1901 census at ,38 Avon street do you have a date/address of marriage for them, to narrow down the search?
best Wishes
Paul
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solitaire
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Hi Paul. Thanks so much for taking the time and trouble to reply and for your kind offer to try to trace my paternal grandparents. Sorry, but we don't have the info on their marriage. The only info we have is that my late father, Sidney Young was born at 38 Avon Street, Walcot, Bath on 29/07/1909. We have had lists of possibles in various censuses, but the only definite link we do have is that Charles Young and Emily Young formerly Wheeler are named as my father's parents on his birth certificate. I'm pretty sure that Charles was still alive in the 1930s as I remember my late mother telling me that he walked very upright, and that he was a slater by trade, but not much else about him. She didn't mention Emily at all, so I don't actually know where Emily was in the 1930s. My parents married on 11 September 1939 and Charles was stated as deceased at this point, but I don't know when he actually died. My father was one of twins. I think his twin sister was named Dorothy and she died in early childhood. Charles came north with my father and two of my father's siblings Joanna and Ellen(poss Helen), both older than my father. I only know my father was a young boy when Charles brought him north to either Manchester or Salford and that he was the youngest of Charles' children, but know nothing about any of the other children who stayed behind in the South, or what happened to Emily. My father's first marriage in Salford was in 1934 to a Martha Chapman. I wonder if perhaps there were any details on this marriage certificate about Charles and if he may have been alive when my father married his first wife. Martha died in 1936 aged 28 and they had one daughter Emily born June 14 1934,now also sadly deceased. She died in Texas in August 1997. Given that my parents married in 1939 perhaps there may be something to give us a lead from there. My parents are both deceased and are Sidney Young and Mary Agnes Young nee Burns. I can't think of any more info that I can give, but of course if I think of anything else I will send it to you. Thanks again or your interest and your reply Paul. God bless you. Here's hoping hey?
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Mary Young
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paulanthony
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Mary,
so far i have found,
B.M.D.
Martha A. Chapman=Sidney Young,Salford,8d,578,march QTR 1934
Sidney Young,Birth,Bath,5c,479.SepQTR,1909
Dorothy Young,Birth,Bath,5c,480,SepQTR,1909
1901 Census;
Charles Young,29,Somerset,wrington,somerset,clevedon,porter
this suggests he married between march1901 and 1909,however if there really were another 6 children(average 1 per year) this should mean they married between 1901-1903/4.
This is where i will search st catherines index
Paul
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paulanthony
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its possible, but anyway i can check it out in local directories, when you buy/check the certificate for Martha&Sidney it should clear things up a bit more
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paulanthony
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nighty night   
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paulanthony
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Mary,
i have just spent the morning at Bath library with little success i am afraid, all i was able too find was an entry in the 1910 directory of Bath at 38 avon street for Charles young-Occupation-HAWKER.
Also living there were William Cross-CARTER and Walter Boswell-CARTER.
I searched 5 years either side of this date but found nothing. I think that they probably just stayed in Bath as a stop of point on there way northwards via Bristol, it was and still is a major junction for travellers by train/coach etc.
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paulanthony
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Mary,
I suggest that you should search directories in Salford Library/record office starting in 1934 and working backwards, too try and establish when your family arrived there, this at least will give you more of an idea when they got there.
Paul
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