gerryno
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Elizabeth Pascoe married Francis Gartrell about May 1842 in Redruth, Cornwall and had a son William Pascoe Gartrell on Sept 24, 1845. I am searching for the parents of Elizabeth Pascoe. Any one would possibly be able to help find her parents it would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Gerry
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Barbara F
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Hello Gerry
Do you have Elizabeth on a census after her marriage? Pascoe is a very common name so we really need to identify Elizabeth's age and place of birth to identify her, hopefully with her parents, in the 1841 census.
If you were to buy her marriage certificate, it would give her father's name and occupation.
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Hi Clive
I've looked at the 1851 with no luck too!
I found the baptisms of William Pascoe and a John Gartrell in Perranuthnoe (both before 1851) but nothing else.
I am thinking that the family emigrated.
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Hi Fizzy
Yes, according to the baptism records Francis was a miner - which made me think he may have emigrated.
If the family did emigrate Gerry then I think you will need to buy that marriage certificate.
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Thanks all. Yes, they emigrated to Australia in 1847. So, I gather the only way I can find the parents of Elizabeth Pascoe is to buy the marriage certificate. All I know about this Elizabeth is that she married in about May 1842.
Again, thanks to all for your help.
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Hi Gerry
This is the ref you will need to order the certificate
Marriages Jun 1842
GARTRELL Francis Redruth 9 249
PASCOE Elizabeth Redruth 9 249
I am not sure whether Australian death certificates give the names of the parents but that is another avenue you could explore. However the information on death certificates can be particularly unreliable - it depends on who registered the death and how much they knew!
If you want to order the marraige certificate you can do so on-line
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/
Shout if you need any more help.
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Hi Gerry,
Sorry death certificate from SA will give nothing further apart from a cause of death and person reporting the death (which is generally only an undertaker)
GARTRELL Francis died 14 Apr1855 aged 36 years Status Not Known Relative not recorded Residence Adelaide Death Place not recorded District Ade 3 132
Pity Looks like Elizabeth died soon after - was hoping she remarried as that would list father 
GARTRELL Elizabeth died 8 May 1855 aged 32 years Widow Relative not recorded Residence Adelaide Death Place not recorded Dist Ade 3 139
Cheers Kris 
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Looks like SA was not good to them
GARTRELL Elizabeth Ann b 6 Jun 1853 Adelaide Dist Ade 4 155 Father Francis Gartrell mother Elizabeth (Surname not recorded) died 6 Jun 1853 aged 4 weeks father Francis Residence Adelaide Death Place not recorded Dist Ade 2 216
GARTRELL Elizabeth Ann b 3 Dec 1854 Glen Osmond Dist Ade 5 76 Father Francis GARTRELL Mother Elizabeth PASCOE died 12 Mar1855 aged 14 weeks father Francis Residence Glen Osmond Death Place not recorded Dist Ade 3 121
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GARTREL Female name not recorded born 19 Aug 1848 father Francis GARTREL Mother Elizabeth PASCOE Residence not recorded Dist TMu 6 51 presume didn't make it - no death ref
Son William Pascoe GARTRELL = in 1872
I see two more marriages listing Father as Francis but can't see births...a lot of births went unrecorded in easrly SA history
Jane aged 21 = in 1872
Mary aged 33 = in 1886
Immigration
GARTRELL Francis, Elizabeth nee PASCOE, 2 ch (1 d@sea) arrived 1847-10-29 on Duchess of Northumberland from London 1847-07-30 via Plymouth
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/fh/passengerlists/1847DuchessOfNorthumberland.htm
Cheers Kris
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Yes all very tragic isn't it fizzy
Gerry may know that part of the story. At least we now have an age for Elizabeth - haven't looked yet but with a name like Pascoe I doubt it will help without her father's name
Did you notice there was a James Pascoe and wife and 2 children on the same ship....wonder if he connects.....will see if they look like having any children here 
Cheers Kris
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Sorry even here Pascoe is very common. I can discount a James Bray Pascoe and his 2 wives as first child born before this James arrived. (That James arrived in 1846) Taking him out of the picture the earliest births I see with a father James are to a James and Elizabeth Gilbert where the first birth is listed in 1855 and a James and Elizabeth Turner in 1855 so no help there I am afraid. Are you trying census fizzy while I am fooling around with SA records?
If I spot anybody online with BISA I will see if they get a mention in it. 
Cheers Kris
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Hi All
Very interesting information you are digging up but again without her father's name then we are still not able to find the parents of Elizabeth Pascoe born 1822/23.
Thank you all for your help, Gerry
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