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acookey
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Katherine Pasley


Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« on: Wednesday 27 June 07 22:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi from Qld Australia

I am looking for Martin Bohen (also spelled Bowen, Bohan and Boham), who was tried at Kilkenny on 15th July 1836. He was 16 years old and received a Life sentence.

He was transported in 1837 aboard the "St Vincent" to NSW.  He received a conditional pardon, married and was a shoe and bootmaker in Western NSW.

I have some of his convict records but none show what he was convicted of.

On the Ticket of Leave the Place of Trial is Kilkenny with a notation after it which is a little hard to read but looks like Sum.ass.

Can anyone help me with this, also maybe his birth date, family etc.

Very happy to provide details of his life in Australia if there are family in Ireland looking for him.

Annette
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Pasley, Ireland
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Christopher
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Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 01 July 07 23:59 UTC (UK) »

Hello Annette,

The National Archives of Ireland holds a wide range of records relating to the transportation of convicts from Ireland to Australia covering the period 1788 to 1868. In some cases these include records of members of convicts' families transported as free settlers.

I've just posted a message to another member with an ancestor transported from Ireland to Australia. A Dublin member might be prepared to visit the Archives on your behalf. If I find several more queries about transportees I might head to Dublin to look at the Archives.

Christopher
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Katherine Pasley


Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #2 on: Monday 02 July 07 04:54 UTC (UK) »

Hi Christopher

Thanks for the reply.  I have searched everything that I can from this end.
Any help much appreciated.

Annette
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Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
acookey
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Katherine Pasley


Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #3 on: Monday 02 July 07 07:41 UTC (UK) »

Hi Christopher

If you posted that offer re Dublin archives on the Oz board, I am sure you will get some takers.

Cheers Annette
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Gee, Ireland
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Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #4 on: Monday 02 July 07 12:56 UTC (UK) »

Hi Annette,

There's a link to Convicts - Ireland-Australia transportation database on both the Irish Resources board and Emigrants - Emigrants to Australia child board - Australia Resources thread.

There were 1043 matches for 'Kilkenny'. Have you found any details about Martin on that database?

Christopher
 
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Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #5 on: Monday 02 July 07 20:53 UTC (UK) »

Hi Christopher

Yes I did check that site.  I even went so far as to go through every entry for B, but could not find anything.  I have looked under Bowen/Bohan/Bohen/Boen/Boham.

I am not asking because I want someone else to do my research for me, but because I seem to have exhausted all possibilities from here.

I have got his convict records from NSW State Records, know where and who he married and where he died, what of, but do not know his crime.  It is just that last detail that is eluding me.

Annette

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Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 15 July 07 13:27 UTC (UK) »

Hi Annette,

I've linked your Convicts thread to this one as there are a couple of replies on that thread. The message from rsandes on that thread was interesting so I had a look at the County Kilkenny Past and Present page to see what was happening in Kilkenny around the time Martin was tried and transported. The 'Tithe War' was taking place in the county between 1830 and 1838.

Christopher
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Katherine Pasley


Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 July 07 22:23 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Christopher,

That is really interesting.  Patrick Tobin (supposed brother of Martin) was tried for felloniously killing sheep, and I wondered about that because some of the other sheep killing was for intending to eat it.

But how I wish I knew for certain.  I have found that Martin's "master" ie. where he was assigned to work off his sentence, the the "Australian Agricultural Company at Port Stephens, near Newcastle NSW.  I am doing some research on this company, which got 1 million acres for 1 milllion pounds, mainly to grow fine wool.

Annette
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Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 July 07 03:59 UTC (UK) »

Hi Annette,

Have you looked at the passenger list for the ship St Vincent.  It is part of the NSW convict research kit.  I looked at it some years ago and I am nearly certain that all convicts had their crimes listed with their other details. 

Carol
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Katherine Pasley


Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 July 07 04:16 UTC (UK) »

Hi Carol

No I have'nt.  I did not know of the convict research kit, as I said I am still learning.  Being in Brisbane, how do I access it?

I have sent for his indent, hoping it might give me something, but all the other stuff I have got from the archives about him has had nothing about his conviction.

Thanks for the tip, and would appreciate you advice as to my next move.

Annette
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Cooke, Aust. England
Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 July 07 04:36 UTC (UK) »

Hi Annette,

The Qld State Library have the kit (called ARK) and so do most Genealogical Societies.  Some of the larger Brisbane City Council librarys also have parts of the kit but not the complete set.  Maybe you could ask for a lookup of the shipping records if you can't get there yourself. 

I will eventually be at the State Library but it could be months before I make it.  I think the Qld State Library will do research for anyone who is not able to get in personally.  Maybe you could give them a ring and ask them.

Carol 
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acookey
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Katherine Pasley


Re: Martin Bohen - convict to Australia
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 July 07 05:07 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Carol,

I will contact them and try to get in myself.  I am going to Rockhampton in the morning to visit my son and granddaughter, so will be away for a while, but should still be able to access all my computer contacts.

Regards

Annette
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Cooke, Aust. England
Russell, Aust. Enland
McMinn, Ireland
Gee, Ireland
Crump, London
Bowen (Bohan), Ireland
Seage, Ireland
Smith, Aust.
Dore, Ireland
Pasley, Ireland
Simmonds, England
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