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MonicaLesl
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Re: 1871,1881 cencus look up,Arthur Fraser Johnston
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 01 July 07 11:21 BST (UK) »

It certainly says Erskine for Janet ~ no idea why Undecided  We have the marriage details in 1856, the IGI birth entries with HASTINGS also, the 1861/71 census entries which tie up with IGI children. You could check Janet's death cert. to see what it shows for her maiden name or also marriage certs. for other children/siblings to Agnes.  There is no death entry showing for a Janet Erskine/Le*per but there is one for a Janet with Hasting* for other surname (I haven't narrowed down the search fields for the entry, but there is only one record showing).

This is the only entry I can see so far on the 1851 Census, with the names we have so far and a Boness birth place for a Janet Hastings:

Agnes Hastings    55, grocer, b. Linlithgow
Alexander Hastings 31, son, Agricultural Labourer & Forester, b. Linlithgow
Janet Hastings    33, daughter, dressmaker, b. Boness
   
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: 1871,1881 cencus look up,Arthur Fraser Johnston
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 01 July 07 11:28 BST (UK) »

I found Arthur and Agnes last night in 1881  Smiley  He was recorded as first name Fraser (as he was in 1891 in England):

Fraser Johnston 27, b. England
Agnes Johnston    22, b. Linlithgow
Andrew Johnston 5, b. Linlithgow

Address: No 23 So St James St, Edinburgh St Cuthberts


And also a possible entry for father Andrew in 1891:

Andrew Johnstone, 64, shoemaker, inmate, b. Dumfries
Address:  Moorheads Hospital, Dumfries

The index does not show marital status, so cannot say whether he shows as married/widower. You would have to look at the original image to establish this.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

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Re: 1871,1881 cencus look up,Arthur Fraser Johnston
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 01 July 07 11:58 BST (UK) »

 Hi Monica

    I have been looking at the family on the link i posted yesterday, and it looks like bootmaking or shoemaker was a family tredition Margaret Hair had a brother Thomas who married 1849 moved to newcastle about 1849-51 and worked as a bootmaker, so wonder if Margarets husband  Andrew Johnstone went with them to help out with the bussiness she followed on at a later date and then gave birth to Arthur Fraser born 1854. it seems to fit.

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Re: 1871,1881 cencus look up,Arthur Fraser Johnston
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 01 July 07 12:26 BST (UK) »

Thomas Hair, wife Margaret and 1yr old daughter Janet were in Dumfries for the 1851 census (at Irish Street East Side, Dumfries) and look to have moved to Newcastle upon Tyne after this date where their other children were born there.

It's likely that 1851 entry I found for an Andrew Johnstone in Newcastle upon Tyne was the right Andrew and Thomas and family followed after. Certainly  Margaret Hair joined husband at some point after the 1851 census before the birth of Arthur in 1854.

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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........

Census information Crown Copyright, www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Re: 1871,1881 cencus look up,Arthur Fraser Johnston
« Reply #19 on: Monday 02 July 07 17:27 BST (UK) »

Hi Monica

Thanks for doing all the looking for me. got to go off line for a couple of days, going out of town for a while. well be back on line thursday.
Once again thanks for what you have found.

Ian JP  Smiley
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