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william james
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Hi All.
I am trying to find the family of my cousins mother.
My cousin and i had this conversation about her mothers side of the family, at the end of the chat she said to me and i believe they where traveling people.
The lady i am looking for is Grace Gray, born 22 march 1906, and that is all i know.
She had at least 1 brother and 1 sister that i know of Eliza Gray and Bertram Gray.
Any help would be great.
Thank you.
William James
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Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.
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An65
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Do you have any clues as to whereabouts they were born or travelled?
I know many of the Grays travelled Lincs/Notts/Cambridge/Norfolk/Suffolk, and a few went north to Lancs.
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william james
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Hi
I am waiting for my cousins parents marriage cert, this will give me more info, but it is taking ages.
Well that is what it feels like.
William James
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Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.
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william james
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Hi
I now have the marriage cert of Grace Gray. It gives her father as Edward Henry Gray, and his trade is given as locksmith.
So now am thinking the family maybe where not travelers.
And they where in Islington London.
Any thoughts?
William James.
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Rice, Sadler, Cocksedge, Mulley,from Suffolk. Minter, Smith, Holding, Warcus, from London.Courtney, Smith, from Dorset. Pearl, from Suffolk/ Hampshire.
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osprey
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Do you have her birth certificate? Both names together would help the search. There seem to be many Edward Grays around. With both names, you could search for the marriage and find out if they were married before the 1901 census.
Grace Gray june qtr 1906 Southwark vol 1d pg 117
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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william james
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Hi Osprey.
No i don't have the birth cert, that is next on the list when i talk to my cousin tomorrow.
But i think i might have found Edward Henry Gray's birth on free B M D.
and also his marriage, again not sure, as we are not sure of the maiden name of his wife.
William James
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osprey
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I can see these possible in 1901 and there are probably more
6 Springdale Rd, Stoke Newington RG13/206 folio 169 pg 47
Edward H Gray head mar 25 ? contractor b. Islington
Alice E wife 26 b. Hackney
Edward J son 3 months
Archibald H 3 months twins b. Stoke Newington
possible marriage
Edward Henry Gray march qtr 1900 Islington vol 1b pg 285 with Alice Emily Gunner on the same page
73 Kinglake St, Walworth RG13/377 folio 115 pg 5
Robert Vaughan head widower 52 ? b. Lambeth
Eliza Gray dau mar 23 b. Walworth
Edward Henry Gray son-in-law 23 ? b. Bermondsey
Eliza dau 2 b. Walworth
Robert Henry son 10 months b. Walworth
Think the enumerator meant grand-daughter and grandson for the children here as the relationship should be to head of family. Also, the occupations have big thick ink marks over them making them almost impossible to read, but I don't think Edward Henry's says locksmith. It might start with a 'g'. So neither Edward is a locksmith. Birth cert would give address and his occupation at that time so definitely worth getting as otherwise it would be guesswork.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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william james
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Hi
Yes will try to talk my cousin into getting the birth cert, and will send for it today i hope.
Thank you for your help.
William James.
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Gray_Girl
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Hi my last name is Gray, I am from Norfolk and my family stopped all over Lincs, Norfolk and Suffolk and cambs. I am trying to find anyone who knew my Grandad and Granny Stanley Gray and Clara Smith from Lynn area in Norfolk. I especially want to contact me cousin Ada. Any info about my family will be great. Thanks
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william james
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Hi osprey
I now have the birth cert of Grace, and she was born on 22 march 1906, her father was Edward Henry Gray, her mother was Eliza Gray formally Vaughan, and the family was at 73 Kinglake street Newington. and Edward was a locksmith.
I have also sent for Edwards marriage cert to Eliza but under her name as his is misstranscribed.
I have also sent for the birth and death cert of Robert Henry Gray, which should all be here this weekend, fingers crossed.
William James
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william james
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Hi Gray girl
Sorry it has taken so long for me to respond but i have been on nights.
The more info i gather about this side of the family the more it looks like they where not travelling people at all.
So i don't think i will have any info for you on the people you seek.
William James.
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An65
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Hi Gray-Girl
Might be able to help if you can give any names further back? I know something of the Grays who travelled that area.
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william james
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Hi Gray girl
The info that i have at the moment is that my Gray family are in Islington / Newington areas of London, i have this from the birth certs of 2 of their children.
I have sent for the marriage cert and will have Edward Henry Grays father from this.
I believe that the Gray family came from Norfolk but can't confirm this without the marriage cert of Edward, when i know Edwards father i can go back another generation.
But you must understand this is the family of a cousin of mine who i did not up to 6 weeks ago and i can not and will not post info on this family without i ask them first, if they do not want me to proceed then my hands are tied.
I am sorry if this is not what you want to hear but this is how i work.
It has to be there decision.
William James
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Gray_Girl
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Yes i understand, but is your info from the consus records? If so you can find most of the Gray family history from www.rtfhs.org - I am looking for more recent history, my great great grandfather and mother. I already know that my family are Romany Gypsies so what is the meaning behind 'they were not travelling people at all'? I know about you not wanting to say.... can you give any clues   please,
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