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janglover
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Estate records.
« on: Tuesday 03 July 07 21:59 UTC (UK) »
This is a long shot, I know. Does anyone know where I might found out if estate records survived. My family lived in Killeentierna. The estate was owned by Richard Meredith of Dicksgrove. I have hit the proverbial brick wall and thought I might find some details in his records.
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Glover,Moriarty,Kennelly,Brosnan all based in Kerry.
Evans and Fitzpatrick in Dublin
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 May 08 01:59 UTC (UK) »
Hello janglover,

It might be worthwhile attempting to trace more information about the Meredith family. Were they in Ireland at the time of the Civil War? Did they have other estates. If there are records for the estate and they're not held in archives somewhere in Ireland there may be a possibility that they are still in private hands.

Christopher 


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janglover
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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 May 08 10:21 UTC (UK) »
Hi Christopher,
I hope to have some free time over the summer, so I might check with the National Archives and see how far I get. I never realised that they might still be in private hands. I know that in Kenmare some of the estate records are open to the public. Would definitely be worth doing some research on the Merediths.
Thanks for your help
Jan
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Glover,Moriarty,Kennelly,Brosnan all based in Kerry.
Evans and Fitzpatrick in Dublin
leprechaun
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 May 08 10:45 UTC (UK) »
Estate Records. Asgill: Account Book 1709.NAI M.1854 Major tenents only.Covering townlands in the civil parishes of: Currans,Kilbonane,Kilcredane,Killarney,Killeentierna,Kiltomy,Tuosist. Lep.
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 May 08 12:35 UTC (UK) »
    Electoral Divisíon.Killeentierna.

Occupier in Valuation Lists.Townland Dicksgrove.Richard Meredith.
Area [Statue]     225--2--11

Land                  170--50

Rateable Valuation Buildings   31--50

Obervations Mansion House.          Lep.
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 May 08 15:53 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jan,

Did you post on Yahoo Answers five months ago?

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071202013845AAIMjm9

There's an entry for Richard dated 1825 on Nick Reddan's Newspaper Abstract site http://members.iinet.net.au/~nickred/newspaper/np_abst25.htm

There's a large amount of Meredith information on RootsWeb ... http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/MEREDITH-IRISH/2007-11/1194018059

Christopher

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janglover
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« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 May 08 17:55 UTC (UK) »
Thanks a million for all your help, everyone. It wasn't me on Yahoo but I shall have a read of it anyway. My ancestors were all stonemasons and lived on Merediths estate. The parish records for Killeentierna only start in 1803 and I have taken everything relevant from them. The name is Glover and obviously not originally from Kerry. I have been told that they were brought to Kerry to build churches, but from where.... That's the big question. I was hoping that Merediths records might give me a clue.
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 May 08 19:24 UTC (UK) »
Hello Jan,

Keep an eye on the thread about Irish stonemasons on the Occupation Interests board as I hope to add more to it ... http://tinyurl.com/6s5r86 Your Glover ancestors may have been in a different part of Ireland or even Scotland as the Irish and Scots were experts at dry masonry. It would depend what type of workmanship was in those buildings in Kerry.

Christopher
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janglover
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 05 May 08 19:43 UTC (UK) »
Will do Christopher, thanks.
Jan
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Glover,Moriarty,Kennelly,Brosnan all based in Kerry.
Evans and Fitzpatrick in Dublin
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 10:40 UTC (UK) »
I live in Dicksgrove. The origional stone wall remains outside my house. My uncle gave me this site, and my granda got the field when there were no heirs left , and so the poor labourers were given  some land.I think the wall is famine era. Ive just started getting interested in Geanology , and would love to know who  lived in Dicksgrove in the past.
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 15:08 UTC (UK) »
Hi Littlegrove,
That is amazing. My ancestors address was Ranalough, Killeentierna. I will try and look for more specific details. I know I have some information on Dicksgrove in my files somewhere. I will have look and get back to you. You are lucky to live in such a nice part of the world. Steeped in history, if only those stone walls could talk !

Best wishes
Jan
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 19:01 UTC (UK) »
Hi Jan
You mention that some of the Kenmare Estate records are open to public view, do you happen to know which ones please?

My g/grandfather was a Land Steward in Templenoe. He rented land in 1852 (Griffiths Val.) from the Rev. D. Mahoney, so presumably worked for him.

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Main names:
Scotland (Travellers) - Townsend/Townsley
Lanark and Stirling - Jeffrey.
Northumberland/ Durham - Newton, Patrick, Nixon, Sharp.
Warwickshire and London - Garfield.
Ireland, Co. Kerry - Marah/Meara/Mara

other offshoots - Berry, Steven, Craig, Atkins, Fuller, McClure, Todd, McIntyre, Stewart, Conway, Buck, Heather, Winter, Letley, Beaumont, Wilson

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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 19:17 UTC (UK) »
Hi Sylvia,
I'm afraid I don't know which ones. It was a documentary on RTE that covered it, there seemed to be an extensive collection. I will try and rack my rusty old brain and see if the name of the documentary comes back to me.
Sorry I cannot be of more help
Regards
Jan
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 October 08 21:56 UTC (UK) »
Hi Sylvia,
I remembered the programme. It was part of a series called Hidden History. Here is a link to it on the RTE website. http://www.rte.ie/tv/hiddenhistory/landisgold.html
The documentary concerns W.S.Trench, an infamous Kenmare landlord. The summary on the website states that
All of Trench's documents about the estate and its people are lodged today in Derreen House. This unique collection is the basis of Gerard Lyne's prize winning history study.
Hope this helps
Cheers
Jan
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Glover,Moriarty,Kennelly,Brosnan all based in Kerry.
Evans and Fitzpatrick in Dublin
littlegrove
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Re: Estate records.
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 29 October 08 20:34 UTC (UK) »
Dearest ,Jan , My ancestors came  from Lyre near Ranalough, Bawnaglanna, and my nan came from over the next village of Scartaglen . My mom says she remembers the  name of Glover, being here , and the name Twiss is no longer in the area My uncle. in the parish.   is the last o Dwyer. Im a busy mum of 3  children and also work night duty, but let me know if theres anway in  which I can help  you in the future, Regards,,  Littlegrove
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