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Albert Austin Saunders
« on: Wednesday 04 July 07 07:49 BST (UK) »
Looking for Albert Austin Saunders born in 1874 married to Edith Agnes Waterton in 1898.
Also his wife Edith Agnes Waterton. I have found her in the census living with Samuel and Frances, yet on her marriage certificate it says her father was Josiah?   Can anyone help? Undecided
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 08:05 BST (UK) »
What area of Kent were they living in?
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 10:51 BST (UK) »
They lived in Islington London in the 1901 census. It says that Albert was born in Croydon Surrey, and Edith was born in Bromley Kent.
I have a possible Albert in the 1881 census living with a father William and mother Caroline.  I can not find William and Caroline in the 1871 or 1861.
I also can not find a Albert Austin Saunders in the BMD index.

Any suggestions.

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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 12:20 BST (UK) »
Albert appears on  the 1891 census living with his father William and mother Caroline in Croydon (RG12/1055).

There is an Albert Saunders born Apr-May-Jun 1874 in Barnet district (which according to the 1891 census Croydon also falls in).

Name: Albert Saunders
Year of Registration: 1874 
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 
DISTRICT: Barnet 
County: Greater London, Hertfordshire, Middlesex 
Volume: 3a 
Page: 154 
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 12:45 BST (UK) »
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in Barnet district (which according to the 1891 census Croydon also falls in).

dont think so  Wink  Croydon was and is in Surrey, Barnet in Middx / Herts as shown in your pasting ...
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 13:57 BST (UK) »
Hi Frankle

What does it say for Albert's father ie. name & occupation on his marriage certificate?  Is there any address for Albert and who were the witnesses?

Am pondering over the birth registration of an Albert Austin WILLIAMS in the Croydon registration district in the September quarter 1873 ref. 2a 210 but, of course, it may be nothing Undecided

What does the full 1891 census entry that you found say Spongebob?

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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 14:53 BST (UK) »
Here is Edith's birth:

Oct/Nov/Dec 1878
Edith Agnes Waterton
Bromley reg district
ref 2a 380
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 14:59 BST (UK) »
Thank you Ediths details. I have that already although she is a bit difficult also, as she disappeard in a couple of the census records, I think I found her as Edith Walerton living with Seymour Shepherd Circus proprietor in one census.
Any way on their marriage certificate 1898 Middlesex, They were married on 25th December Albert was 25 a Bachelor, occ Labourer liviang at 25 Blundell Street. Father William Saunders Labourer.   Edith was 20 a spinster also living at 25 Blundell Street father Josiah? occ Labourer.  Their witnesses were Harry Miles? and Kate Waterton  (think she was sister to Edith)

Anyway, looks like Edith ran away with the circus at about age 11, and after she was married their children were looked after by one of her sisters.   Nothing else known about the pair.

Any idea where to look next?
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 15:06 BST (UK) »
Quote from: frankle on Wednesday 04 July 07 10:51 BST (UK)
I have a possible Albert in the 1881 census living with a father William and mother Caroline. 

I'm having trouble finding this.

what does it say - esp re Albert's age plus place of birth. Also - did he have any siblinngs? WHere were they living in 1881
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 15:15 BST (UK) »
Sorry I meant the 1891 census RG12 Piece 1055 folie 53 page 8.
I can not find any siblings. Mother says she was from France?

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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 15:37 BST (UK) »
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Mother says she was from France?

That could well be it then - WILLIAMS see 1881 census RG11/813 folio 139 page 66 - Grant Road, Croydon:

Caroline WILLIAMS 34 b.Normandy? France
Albert WILLIAMS 7 b.Croydon
boarders living with a HERITAGE family.

This could well tie in with the Albert Austin WILLIAMS birth registration that I mentioned previously.

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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 15:45 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage Oct/No/Dec 1884 , in Croydon area, for a William Saunders, also on the page is a Caroline Saunders.
Possible, if they were already together and she was known as Saunders rather than Williams by then.
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 17:00 BST (UK) »
You could be on to something. I will look into it.
Thanks everyone.

Cheers
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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 18:10 BST (UK) »
I think this is him.
Can anyone find his parents William and Catherine in the 1901 census.
I have checked and no luck.  Any Ideas?

thanks

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Re: Albert Austin Saunders
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 20:24 BST (UK) »
Hi Sandra

What does the 1891 census say ie. where exactly were they, age of "Caroline" and age & birthplace for William?

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