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Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« on: Wednesday 04 July 07 12:08 BST (UK) »
On several censuses I have people in the same family listed as Agricultural labourer and Farm labourer  for example
Edward DAVIES    Head    Mar    45    Agricultural labourer    Worcester Martley
Sarah DAVIES    Wife    Mar    60             Worcester Ombersley
Joseph HODGES    Son    U   21    Farm Labourer       Worcester Omberley
Henry HODGES    Son    U   18    Farm Labourer       Worcester Ombersley

Does anyone know what  the difference was between the two occupations?
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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 16:17 BST (UK) »
It's only a guess but i have noticed that an  Agricultural Laborer is nearly always 40ish +so probably worked on the farms since young.So knows a lot about farming,a farm worker is a lot younger so has a lot to learn about the running of a farm before he can call himself an Agricultural Laborer.Thats just my opinion though ;D

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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 16:56 BST (UK) »
I'm also wondering whether it has something to do with the type of work they did.  This is also a guess but an Agricultural Labourer might have been more involved in stock and crops etc and a Farm Labourer doing general work such as ditch clearing, hedgelaying etc a little less to do with Agriculture.

Trees what an interesting question!!

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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 17:56 BST (UK) »
Thank you both it really makes me wonder
By the way in the example the Hodges were Mary's sons by a previous marriage hence the different surname.
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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 18:17 BST (UK) »
It's only a guess but i have noticed that an  Agricultural Laborer is nearly always 40ish +so probably worked on the farms since young.So knows a lot about farming,a farm worker is a lot younger so has a lot to learn about the running of a farm before he can call himself an Agricultural Laborer.Thats just my opinion though ;D

Celia

That makes sense! But ive got Agricultural Labourers in my family aged 17/18.
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering

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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 18:20 BST (UK) »
For some explanation see http://www.rootschat.com/links/01pp/

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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 18:53 BST (UK) »
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That makes sense! But ive got Agricultural Labourers in my family aged 17/18.


Well that puts the dampers on my opinion dunnit ;D ;D

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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 19:02 BST (UK) »
That is an interesting link Stan but although it differentiates between Farm servants and farm labourers I'm still unsure about the difference between Ag labs and farm labourers as you can see neither in the example I quote lived at the farm. i think the article is pointing to regional variations so Celia's idea could still be valid
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Re: Ag Lab and Farm labourer
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 04 July 07 20:31 BST (UK) »
I agree. But as you can see in the pic, the young Ag Labourers are 19 and 22. But generally you do see a lot more "senior" ones than young uns!

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Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering