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1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« on: Thursday 05 July 07 15:35 BST (UK) »

Me yet again...  Wink

Feast or famine here - either I get lots of leads all at once or my family files sit in their boxes for months when I hit a wall- well right now things are heating up, much like our Montreal weather!  Hence my posts the last couple of days.

And I do appreciate all the help I get here... Kiss

Looking for HENRY JARVIS on the 1851 likely in Great Bircham or at least  I believe in the Docking District.
Henry would be about 35-40 on the 1851.  He may indicate he was born in Scotland.

Wife was Sarah who would be maybe 30 on the Census, likely born in Norfolk.

They would have had 3 or more young children:
Charlotte Jarvis
Susannah Jarvis
Charles Jarvis

Anybody pick them up....
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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 05 July 07 15:44 BST (UK) »

cunningly disguised by the ancestry transcription ...

1851 -  HO107/1827; Folio: 420; Page: 10 - Great Bircham
Village Green

 
Susan Spanton 72 Head Widow Pauper Norfolk, Heloughton

Henry Jarvis 37  Son In Law Coachman Scotland
Sarah Jarvis 30  dau DressmakerG Bircham
Charlotte Jarvis 8 gDau Grt B
Susannah Jarvis 5  Gdau do
Charles W Jarvis   ?? GSon do

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 July 07 15:51 BST (UK) »

thanks Newfy  Wink

Yes indeed I have posted quite a few census queries the last couple of days and boy they have all been difficult to find mainly due to transcriptions I am guessing!!!

I do appreciate the hand locating them

With regards
Susan
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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 July 07 15:51 BST (UK) »

1861 - RG9/1250; Folio: 16; Page: 26 - Great Bircham

Lynn Rd

 
Henry Jarvis 47  Head PostBoy / Coachman Scotland, Edinburgh
Sarah Jarvis 41  Wife DressMaker Great Bircham
Susanna Jarvis 15 dau do
Charles Jarvis 10  son do
Maria Jarvis 6  dau do

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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 July 07 15:58 BST (UK) »

This looks like Charlotte - a couple of years too old but ...  Wink

1861 - RG9/1246; Folio: 115; Page: 10 - Hindringham
Church Road

 
Charlotte Jarvis 20 Boarder SchoolMistress Bircham Magna, Norfolk

in the Household of Samule Southgate, Farmer, Grocer & Postmaster...
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 July 07 16:11 BST (UK) »

THANKS NEWFY

Appreciate the hand Wink

I have been digging around on this Henry Jarvis and the more I dig the more I cannot quite understand why his parents, or who I believe were his parents, a couple from Houghton Parish, Docking District, would end up in Edinburgh Scotland, have a child there, Henry around 1813, and then return back to Houghton by 1816 where the husband/father died!!  Henry is adamant he was born in Scotland and never waivers on the Census.

Seems a long way for a couple to go in the early 1800's and for what would they be going during that time frame.... Undecided   I think I will order Henry's marriage to Sarah Spanton from the GRO and just see who is indicated as his father... although my luck, it will be blank as his Dad had died back in 1816....

THanks Newfy
Susan

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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 July 07 16:17 BST (UK) »

Not too familiar with Scots stuff, but maybe the Scotlands people site would have an image of birth detail (pre their Civil Regn tho) ....  Smiley

The only reason there would be no Father named on his Marriage Cert would be if he was in fact illegitimate or his father was unknown to him ?

Be interesting to see what his occupation was too - to drag him up there at that period ?
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PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex
OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington
LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs
HAMMOND – 1825, Elmdon, Essex
DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs
BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs
CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk
LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk
GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle
KEW – 1814, Carlisle
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Re: 1851 & 1861 Census- Great Bircham- Jarvis
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 July 07 16:36 BST (UK) »

Hi Again  Wink

Yes, I did already check out scotlandspeople's OPRs....nothing for a Henry Jarvis' baptism ....  Now it could be mistranscribed but I paid to look at a variety of the soundex for the surname Jarvis and came up empty.  I am not convinced he was born in Scotland!!    But again this is a very, very odd group!

And yes, I too would like to know what took Wharton Jarvis and wife Grace from Houghton Parish up to Scotland in around 1813...

Or is this all smoke and mirrors...I have had those ancestors!! Roll Eyes

CHeers
Susan

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WOODAGE (East London);
SPEAR (Laneast, Cornwall);
FRENCH (Rye/Hastings, Sussex);
PERCIVAL (Downe, Kent);
JARVIS (Houghton, Norfolk);
KING (Wortham,Suffolk- Hove, Sussex);
FLEMING(Logierait & Dowally, Perthshire);
LOVE (Ireland Co.?)
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