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daval57
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Slamannan?
« on: Saturday 07 July 07 01:33 BST (UK) » |
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Location?
I think it is Slamannan but does anybody recognise the building?
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257 Census information is Crown Copyright |
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mosstrooper
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I was born in Avonbridge, which is just down the road from Slamannan,
I can't think of any building of that stature in the area.
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daval57
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Thank you.
Since I posted this, I found out that as well as a Slamannan connection, the family had connections in Linlithgow.
I think the photo may well have been taken in, or near, the grounds of Linlithgow Palace.
I've put up a separate post to try and check that out.... http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,242904.msg1324554.html#msg1324554
Thanks for taking the time to reply to the post. Can you recommend any sites that would give me some more background to Slamannan - I've Googled it and looked at most of the sites but perhaps with your local knowledge you know of some better sites?
Dave
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257 Census information is Crown Copyright |
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Ann Baker
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Hi Dave
Have to say it looks very like Linlithgow Palace to me. Have a postcard with a similar view on - not with your guys in of course!
Cheers
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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daval57
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Ha Ha Ann. Bet you airbrushed my family out.
Any chance you could scan your postcard and post it.
When does it date from?
What do you know about the disappearing steeple?
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257 Census information is Crown Copyright |
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Ann Baker
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Hi Dave
lol no airbsuhing was a pc from MIL last year (she was on a Scottish coach thing) and I'm gonna have to raid blue bin now to fetch it out. Should be near top cos only put it in other day which is why view was fresh in mind.
No idea when pic was taken but she sent it last autumn.
So bear with me! The neighbours will now know I've truly lost it!
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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Ann Baker
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Hi Dave
She went there cos was Mary Queen of Scots birthplace and as has a Scottish DIL - me - after 20+ years of having me around decided we Scots are Ok and safe to go! (Don;t know what she thought would happen - she did watch Braveheart tho.....)
The steeple has been gone quite a while I think. I remember reading something about it ages ago but can;t for life of me remember what or when
Ann
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Torrens, Thompson - Tyrone & Fermanagh,Connolly, Campbell - Monaghan & Cavan, McGovern, Carroll, Orr - Ireland
Connolly, Fulton, Stirling, Cameron, McKellar, Robertson, McGovern, Torrance, Bisland, Fraser, Hamilton, O'Hara, McAusland, McTaggart , Lambie, Twedale, Hart, Clark(Paisley/Barrhead/Glasgow)
McGovern, Liddell - Falkirk
Mair, Muir, Carroll, Stewart, Law, Orr - Lanarkshire
Torrance - Brisbane
Connolly , Robertson- NSW
McGovan(?), Robertson , Agnew-
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daval57
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Ann,
The "Scottish coach thing" is commonly known as a coach trip.
Braveheart - worth watching, not for the realism - that does not exist in the film!
I say worth watching for the charge scene. Watch it closely............ Willie, I mean MEL, starts running with a massive sword, cut to the baddies....cut back, Mel has an Axe.....cut............Mel has nothing in his hand (reckon he's just going to kick s**t out of the English........cut..........Oh, there it is again, he's found his sword.
Honest Ann, if you haven't seen it, rent it just to watch that scene.
Back to the point.
Can anyone tell me whether this is definitely Linlithgow Palace or not and, if it is, where did the steeple go. Beet it was Mel that took it back to Australia.
D
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------------------- FORREST (Glasgow, Stirlingshire, Dunbartonshire) BORTHWICK (Midlothian) ROONEY (Glasgow and Co Down, Co Antrim) ANDERSON (Moray, Caithness, Glasgow) FORTUNE (East Lothian) BARKER (Midlothian / East Lothian) SIVES / SIBBES and variations (East Lothian) ROCHEAD /ROCHEID and variations (Dunbartonshire) OR VISIT MY SITE FOR MORE NAMES http://daval57.tribalpages.com/access code: aldav5257 Census information is Crown Copyright |
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mosstrooper
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I don't think it is Linlithgow Palace either, I am around all this area regularly and so far nothing jumps to mind.
Are there any notes on the back of the photo such as the Photographers name which might help us?
I am assuming the name of this family is Forrest, here is a link to a good website by Tom Paterson which covers all of Stirlingshire, there is a ton of info including Census records. The layout is a bit quirky, but if you have patience there is a lot to see including photographs. Tom has not had time to add all the photos at his disposal, but invites email enquiries so drop him a line.
This is the link to the 1881 Slamannan Census for the Forrest Family, if you click on the "S" on the righthand side of the page it opens the full Census record for that address. You will see the Birth places include :-
Whitburn, Linlithgow, Slamannan, Portobello, Westburn, Cumbernauld.
http://www.tompaterson.co.uk/census/Slamannan/Slam1881_sPage187.html
Here is the link to his Contents Page.
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/members/tom.paterson/content1.htm
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JAP
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Dave,
Can you give us some information and dates for the people in the photo.
I have Googled various websites for Linlithgow Palace but can find no mention of a demolished spire such as is shown in your photo.
And have Googled many images of Linlithgow Palace (including paintings from earlier times) but nothing which suggests such a view.
I was going to suggest that posting on the Stirlingshire board (or, indeed, only on any Scottish board) might be unnecessarily limiting
your options and your access to RootsChatters' knowledge. And was going to suggest that the Photograph Restoration board
has some great people who are absolute terriers when it comes to identifying not just dates but also locations.
However, I've now looked over there and see that you've posted it there too ...
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,242904.0.html
JAP
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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Alwef
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I' thought I'd better join in and explain that the photo is mine which I passed on to Daval57.
In response to Mosstrooper and Jap, yes it is the Forrest family, and thank you Mosstrooper for the link to the Slamannan census site showing details of my Great grandfather and his family from Whitburn.
I have wondered about the location, but I'm sorry to say there is nothing on the back of the original photo. There are however a few things I can tell you. The person standing on the right of the photo is my paternal Grandpa, William Meek Forrest and I guess that the others are 4 of his brothers, though I am not sure about that and don't know their names.
As to the date, for various reasons I am estimating that William is in his late 20s at the time (dob 1872)., so it's probably around the turn of the century.By 1904 he had moved to Wrexham, Denbighshire, married a local girl and had his first child. Of course the four other chaps could have travelled to Wrexham and this could be a family reunion, but I don't think so.
I say this because I do have another photo, attached, which was taken at the same location, but nearer to the tower and from a slightly different angle. Also it is of a different family group. In the original photo, it is of the chap sitting, right, with his family. He does look a bit younger to me. For this reason, I believe location is Scotland, but where, I don't know. Glasgow, perhaps? I know the family visited there around this time and my Grandpa did move back there after Wrexham.
I am making educated guesses here and am still in the early stages of finding out about my father's family, so any further observations welcome.
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FORREST W Lothian, Stirlingshire, Renfrewshire. MEEK W Lothian
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JAP
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Hi mosstrooper,
Brilliant work!!
Many thanks, mosstrooper, for your message saying that the place is Airth Castle in Stirlingshire
but that you are having difficulties posting your photo of it.
I've Googled for images of Airth Castle and the following is probably the best (not too good, eh!)
I could find to show the castellated square tower (think that's what I mean!) with spire adjacent:
http://www.airthreycastle.co.uk/airth3.gif
Hope you manage to post your photo soon!
JAP
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Scotland - HALL, HARLEY, LOCHTY/LOCHTIE/LOUGHTIE/LOUGHTY (very rare), MCLAUSE/MCLAWS/MCILHOSE/HOSE (quite rare and many very variable spellings - close to 100 to date), PHILP/PHILIP, VASSIE; Ireland - BOURKE/BURKE, DONOHUE (many spellings), DOOLEY, KINSELLA, MAXWELL, OSBORNE, RAFFERTY, STA(U)NTON, SULLIVAN; England - BAYES, BROWNELL, DALTON, FREEMAN, HACKING, PIERCY, SIDDLE, SWIFT, SULLIVAN, TINK(L)ER, TRIPPIT. Any spellings and many other names!
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