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Topic: Donagh/Carndonagh Parish Records McElhinney (Read 2195 times)
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kiwijulia
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I am looking for info on James McElhinney (the Meen - of Meenahoner, Carndonagh) who married Mary Dougherty.
I don't have dates but I know their son William was born on the farm at Meenahoner circa 1890 and left for NZ with his brother John in 1908. The family thinks John stopped in Oz but his line is "missing".
I would like a marriage record (they were Catholic), Griffiths Valuation info or anything anyone can find.
Any suggestions as to where I should be looking my research would be most most appreciated!
I know that James (Jimmy's) brothers were Dan (the Loch) and Gerry (the Bunnerer) and from speaking to the family it would appear that James and Dan were Gamekeepers - one on the land one by the loch. The land was given/purchased by the family at some point and they sold Turf from the land.
A second cousin (or futher away) still lives on the family farm but none of the rellys who still live there know anything about the family history so I'm starting with very little.
There are a number of McElhinney family's in the area who are not directly related (or the link has been forgotten).
Any help would be wonderful. Julia
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kiwijulia
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I had a look on the NZ weblink you gave me, using the spelling I use for my name (McElhinney) and got 39 hits - at least some of them I know are rellys but I haven't investigated yet.
Thanks for that.
I am starting to get the impression that my Irish side is going to be difficult if not impossible to do much more with.
I would love to have a look on the 1901 and 1911 census but all the links I have found to the Donagh Parish/ Carndonagh are missing. I think the website might be being upgraded so it might just require some patience until it's back up again.
Jules
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lil growler
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Hi Jules
I suggest you invest in some head gear, like the boxers wear, you're going to need it for banging your head against the wall for your Irish lot. Aye! it's a difficult one.
Another little trick I learned today on Ancestry. Even though one may not have subscription I found that if you enter in your search box who your looking for and find the year you can in a roundabout way find the parents. As you can't access the trees without subscription, purely by accident I found if I entered the year and country and if possible the county ( no names )and clicked on search
you'll come up with results for the Public, One World and Personal Family trees, according to the year entered.
As an example I was looking for Robert Mc Elheney and found a public tree that would only give me access to the date of birth. I decide to further search and enter country and county details with the year of birth and must have somehow deleted the names and entered the search and under the 75 search results that came up I found the same Robert Mc Elheney, same Birthdate and in the same family tree which provided his parents name that I couldn't access on the previous search. The same applied to the One World tree.
It may not be ingenuous or new but I managed to match a few relies up.
Enjoy your hunting and pleased to here you've found some results
Cheers
lil
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Portygilr
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Hello Fellow McElhinney (var) researchers..My GG Grandmother was Sarah McElhinney,
guesstimate birth c 1810-15, unknown townland, possibly Kilmacrenan Parish? Sarah
married James Boyle, by the time of the Griffiths they where living in Killhill,Townland
of Bellanascaddan, Nr Letterkenny,Kilmacrenan Parish. I know that both James and
Sarah were deceased before 1887, and that their son Charles Boyle (b c 1842) took over the
running of the farm until his death - between 1901 - 1905. Charles Boyle m Cislia (aka Giley/Jiley
McFadden) 1873, Kilmacrenan RC, witness's at the marriage William McElhinney and Henry Boyle -
Henry was Charles Boyle's younger brother.
Other McILhenny's living in Bellanascaddan at the time of the GV Charles and John.
If anything looks familiar..please contact me. on e-mail address removed to prevent spamming & other abuse.
Many thanks
Anne
Edinburgh - Scotland
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Bald Eagle
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Hi Julie
This could be who you are looking for.
A James McElhiney married a Mary Doherty in Sacred Heart RC Church Carndonagh on 18/04/1875. Alas no townland is given so this is the best I can do.
There was also a Bernard McElhiney of Ternaleagu married a Mary Doherty of Treanban in same church 05/04/1862
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rossee
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Hi Julie
I found these records in the Carndonagh Library. James McElhinney/Mary Doherty Meenahonar Carndonagh. Family
John 07/06/1876 Born Meenahonar
Philip 13/02/1878 " Glenagannon
Mary 04/06/1879 " Meenahonar
Margaret 17/07/1881 " " "
Jane 11/09/1883 " "
James McElhinney/Mary McElhinney
Family
William 29/07/1886 Born Glenagannan Carndonagh
Eugune 05/05/1878 " Glack ""
Patrick 10/03/1885 " " """"""
Agnes
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kiwijulia
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Agnes thank you so much.
Thanks to some very fragile family links I was able to travel last year to Carondonagh and stayed with the Grandson of Philip McElhinney (who you found...). I was surprised to find they were as emotional about the "family coming home" as we were about being there. We even visited the Meenahoner, and house where my "uncle" still lives which James and Mary built all that time ago. It made my father cry, as he thinks of himself as Irish but had never been...let alone to find the family and see the homested that his grandfather had talked about when he was a boy.
I am descended from William who aparently left Ireland at 18.
He arrived in NZ in 1908 and started our family line. This year we had a 100 year celebration and three of my distant cousins from Philips line came over - it was fab!
What is most surprising is that the family there know very little about where else the family has gone - there are McElhinneys all around but prob the family links have been lost because they were all living in the same area - so you have given me more information than they could!!!
As I was there for a short time of only 5 days, I made the most of meeting those that were there so didn't make it to the Library.
Thank you so much.
Julia
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kiwijulia
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Yes I think we are related...
The story I got from the family still there was that there were brothers McElhinney;
Jimmy the Meen (James of the Meenahoner), Gerry the Bunnarar (don't know what that means and neither did the family, or how to spell it) and Dan the Loch. That during the time when the English landlords were doing all sorts of nasty stuff in Ireland the McElhinney's were working the property of a Landlord; Gerry was a gamekeeper, Dan tended the loch and Jimmy cut turf for fuel for the estate. Aparently they were all gifted a small piece of land for long service and the family said it was unusual for Irish Catholics to be given such things at the time.
James McElhinney (Jimmy the Meen) is my Great Great Grandfather (I was born in 1978 just to give some perspective), his children were born between 1876 and 1886 from the info I have.
So if you had a William the Loch as a grandfather maybe he was Dan the Loch's son? Do you have a date for the marriage to Ethne Davenport? Do you know the name of your Gt grandad?
Yes, we should get in touch. I could send you a Gedcom of what I have if you want. Feel free to email me on
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but my wedding is in 3 months so I don't have alot of time currently for family history stuff!
Julia
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Portygilr
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Hi to all, I've put together some McElhinney + var d/bases for
Co.Donegal and Glasgow Scotland, pm me if you would like
a copy.
As previously mentioned my GG G/Mother was a McElhinney - married
a James Boyle, lived in Killhill,Bellanascaddan, Kilmacrenan Parish.
On my recent trip to the GROI in Dublin, I found my GG G/Mother's
death record 'by sheer luck' more than anything else! Sarah Boyle (ms McElhinney) d 4th July 1875,aged 55. Superintendent Reg.Dist. Letterkenny, Reg. Dist :Church Hill, Death Reg. in the Dist.Churchill, Union of Letterkenny, Townland of Ballynascaddin,Co.Donegal.
Charles Boyle (son of James & Sarah) b c 1839, inherited the
land at Ballynascaddin (Bellanascaddan) from John McElhinney
JohnMcelhinney died 1885. The John McElhinney in question was non RC, my Boyle line were RC. Would .. John McElhinney if he was not related to my GG Grandmother - Sarah Boyle (McElhinney) leave his land at Bellanscaddan to my GG Uncle Charles Boyle - Sarah's son? The same John Mcelhinney was witness to my G Grandmother's marriage St.Columba's RC,Termon 1874, and a William McElhinney
witnessed Charles Boyle's marriage 1873 @ Churchill.
From other documents, there was connection between this McElhinney
line and a Robert Gregg, also Starrit (sp)
Help appreciated.
thank you Anne
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Thelochman
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Hi
just saw your message. My grandfather was Willie the loch and married to ethna mc elhinney. Give me a call.
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