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EileenI
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Beatrice Ann Maud Burton 1890-1972 Hevingham


1851 and 1861 census look up please
« on: Monday 23 July 07 08:36 BST (UK) »

Hi,
Need help, please, to find-

Joshua Henry Lee born 1821 St Neots

also

Rebecca Lee born 1835 St Ives

They married in 1856 London.

Would appreciate any help with this.

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From the village of HEVINGHAM Norfolk- Burton, Kemp, Sparks, Medler, Gibson, Palmer, Willimott, Allen, Abbs.
NORWICH- Iverson, Harvey, Cowling, Cork, Crowe, Curtis, Fisher, Fountain. NORFOLK, Abel, Chapman, Postle, Skeet, Woods.
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 23 July 07 08:46 BST (UK) »

Hi Eileen
On the 1851 census there is this family

Charles T Wooten head mar 27 builder Middlesex Westminster
Elizabeth       "      wife mar 37               Hunts St Ives
Martha          "      dau u/m 6 scholar      Middlesex Marylebone
Louisa           "      dau u/m 5     "            Hunts St Ives
Rebecca Lee serv u/m 16 house serv     Hunts St Ives

living at Back Street, St Ives, Hunts

H0107/ 1749
folio 554
page 33

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Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 July 07 08:57 BST (UK) »

Hi Eileen

Were they in the country in 1861 as on the 1891 census Rebecca is a widow, and is living with her son Joshua and his family aged 30 born Ireland, living in Norfolk

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Also Murkin's, Jeffery,Pettitt,Carter, from Suffolk/Cambridgeshire boarder
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Beatrice Ann Maud Burton 1890-1972 Hevingham


Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:07 BST (UK) »

Hi Ricky,
I have them on the 1881 living in Norwich,
I have a Son Benjamin born 1858 chichester then a gap before Thomas was born 1869 Norwich, If they were in Ireland, it would explain why I haven't found the missing children.
Thanks for the look up for Rebecca, yet again! not living with family!

Regards Eileen
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From the village of HEVINGHAM Norfolk- Burton, Kemp, Sparks, Medler, Gibson, Palmer, Willimott, Allen, Abbs.
NORWICH- Iverson, Harvey, Cowling, Cork, Crowe, Curtis, Fisher, Fountain. NORFOLK, Abel, Chapman, Postle, Skeet, Woods.
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:13 BST (UK) »

Hi Eileen
I see on the 1881 as you say they had a son Benjamin in Sussex in 1858, I had a look there but I couldnt see the family. I have a feeling that as Joshua the son was born 1860/61 in Ireland I think thats where they might be.

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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:17 BST (UK) »

Hi Eileen

I carnt see Joshua around anywhere on the 51/61 census

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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:33 BST (UK) »

In 1871, cleverly disguised as surname Sulton, with Joshua born St Neots Hampshire!
RG10/1816 folio 78B
13 Chapel St, Crooks Place, St Stephen Norwich
Joshua Henry Lee head marr 45 Railway Porter b St Neots Hunts
Rebecca Lee wife 36 b St Ives
Benjamin Lee son 13 Grocer's apprentice b Chichester
Joshua Lee son 10 scholar b Dublin
Thomas Henry Lee son 2 b Norwich
Rosa Lee dau 5mths b Norwich

It would certainly seem that they may well have been in Ireland in 1861. As Joshua was described as Railway porter. Pensioner in 1881 I wonder if the Pensioner part of it may have been Chelsea pensioner, ie he had been a soldier, which might explain why his children had been born in a variety of places including Ireland

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:46 BST (UK) »

Hi all,
  In the 1841...HO107/486/18 he is listed as a private at a barrack's in St Mary Northgate,Canterbury.

  could explain the pensioner bit and moving around.

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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:51 BST (UK) »

Was he described as a soldier on his marriage certificate? You'll also get fathers' names, if you haven't already got it


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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Beatrice Ann Maud Burton 1890-1972 Hevingham


Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #9 on: Monday 23 July 07 09:55 BST (UK) »

Thanks everyone for all your help with this family,  Smiley

You have  given me the reason why they moved around, which I did not know.

I do not know David, I haven't sent for it yet.

Thanks again Eileen
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From the village of HEVINGHAM Norfolk- Burton, Kemp, Sparks, Medler, Gibson, Palmer, Willimott, Allen, Abbs.
NORWICH- Iverson, Harvey, Cowling, Cork, Crowe, Curtis, Fisher, Fountain. NORFOLK, Abel, Chapman, Postle, Skeet, Woods.
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Re: 1851 and 1861 census look up please
« Reply #10 on: Monday 23 July 07 10:18 BST (UK) »

He was in the 22nd Regiment of Foot (the Cheshire Regiment) whose headquarters 1855-71 was at Chichester

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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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