ovas
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Williams?
« on: Friday 27 July 07 06:53 UTC (UK) » |
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Hi , I am searching for any info on Leonard Williams ,d,o,b 1881 d,o,d november 1930 & wed at Battersea 1900.Trying to find any info he may use another first nav! but is a Traveller with true Rom connections by marriage.
I know he spent most of his time in or around London but does connect with Rom from Mitchamcommon.
Any help would be great!
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An65
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Think I found him:
NorthWest Battersea, 1901
Either Gurlings Yard of Gunlings Yard
Leonard Williams Head of House, 19, married, Hawker born Kilburn.
Sarah Ann Williams wife 19 married, born Mitcham Sy
They are with several other Romany families who may well be related so Ill list them here:
Henry Williams Head 30 married, Hawker born Croydon
Annie Williams Wife 29 married born Tunbridge Wells
Frederick Williams visitor 3 born Southfields Lancs
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Charles Williams Head 70 married Hawker born Andover Hants
Elizabeth Williams Wife 43 married born Norwood
Lucane? Williams daughter 15 born Willesden
Patience Williams daughter 5 born Wandsworth
They are camped with several families of the Penfold name.
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An65
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Mitcham Common, Surrey 1881
In a tent
Charles Williams Head Married 44, Hawker born Andover
Mary A Williams Wife Married 44, Hawker born Basingstoke
Elizabeth Williams dtr 18 born Winchester
Henry Williams son 10 born Croydon
Ada Williams dtr 7 born Hanworth Mx
Phoebe Williams dtr, 3 born Hanworth, Mx
large romany camp there in 1881.
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ovas
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Great stuff thank you so much for this.
Now let me try to get my head around it to see whats next.
Respect to you!
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An65
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Most welcome 
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ovas
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Sorry to be a paine ! any ideas as to whare Leonards family is during the 1891 cen?
LUCK to all.
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An65
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No. Looked for Henry Charles and Leonard seperately and couldnt find any of them. Many Romanies managed to miss census's though, so its not uncommon, and by the likelihood, they were still travelling together since none seem to be around.
Sorry bout that, if Id have found them, would have included them.
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Re: Williams?
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 28 July 07 07:22 UTC (UK) » |
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Yes I did kinda think something like that. So thank you any way for your time & effort.
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Re: Williams?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 28 July 07 09:31 UTC (UK) » |
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Welcome.
Ill have another nose around later if I get some free time (its ma birthday today!! hahaha)
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Re: Williams?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 28 July 07 10:10 UTC (UK) » |
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Well Happy Birthday !!!!!!
Take time & celibrate 
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annettechivrall
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Hi
have I spoken with you before if not please get in contact anyway. this is my mums grandparents Leonard Williams & sarah ann Miller . I have alot of info but need to be confirmed on the williams side alos have some picturers
look forward to your email Groovyachivrall@btinternet.com
cheers annette
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An65
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Glad you made it here annette
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An65
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Didnt get the chance to do anymore research due to birthday celebrations, had a great time, and now back to normality
I shall go and have a nose about and see what I can find 
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An65
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This might be Charles?
Red Lion Lane, Farnham, Hants 1851
Richard Williams 48 Cattle Dealer b. Andover
Harriett Williams 49
B. Williams son 20 Cattle Dealer b. Andover
Ann Williams daughter 19 Lace Bonnet Maker b. Andover
Charles Williams son 16 (looks like) sl or fl house b.Andover
Hannah Williams dtr 12 (looks like) sl or fl house b.Andover
John Williams son 11 servant frm b.Andover
William Williams son 6 Scholar b. Andover
This is the only other reference for a Charles Williams b.circa 1830 at Andover. However there are quite a few Charles Williams who only list their place of birth as in the county of Hampshire, so this "evidence" remains circumstantial in my book at the moment.
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annettechivrall
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I was looking at that but it looks like William Williams changed his name to James along the way he was living at Cawday St with wife Elizabeth ( Gurry ) still trying to work that name out . This address is on Leonard 1881 birth cert but father is called William
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