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smudger28
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Hi Guys
I'm looking for Catherine Rush b abt 1837 widow Uppingham with daughter Louisa born Uppingham. Catherine was formerly a Stretton.
Thanks
Paul
Here she is in 1841
1841 HO 107/896/10/46/26-27 Uppingham North Street
Thomas Stretton 40 Ag Lab Y Sarah 40 Y Caroline 13 Y Robert 10 Y John 8 Y George 7 Y Catherine 4 Y Louisa 1 Y
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Tati
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Hi Paul 
1861 RG9/2311 78 8 Clipsham, Rutland Catherine Rush, visitor, wid, 24, Laundress, b. Rutland Uppingham
visiting a large family named Medwell.
Uppingham, Rutland RG9/2308 3 3 High Street Thomas Stretton, head, 63, Ag lab, b. Uppingham Sarah, wife, 62, b. Barrowden Louisa, dau, 21, Laundress, b. Uppingham Catherine Rush, dau, wid, 24, Laundress, b. do. Louisa Rush, granddau, 3, b. do.
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smudger28
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Hi Tati
Just out of interest who was the first Catherine? Thanks for the look up.
Paul
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smudger28
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Hi Meliora
Thanks for the help!!
I'm also struggling with the Rush Stretton marriage. From a birth certificate of Louisa it states the Father as Alfred Rush.
Cheers
Paul
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Meliora
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The mystery deepens.
We have the two 1861 census entries for a Catharine Rush, one with a dau, Louisa, whose father is stated to be Alfred. As both the 2 Catharine's are widows we need a death for an Alfred Rush , 1857 (birthof Louisa) to Apr. 1861.
I searched the complete BMDs for all with the surname Rush for a death for Alfred, looking at the district for Rutland vol 7a. ( adjoing districts, Billsdon,Kettering,Market Harbourer,Oakham,Oundle & Stamford). The only one for Alfred was>> Sept. ¼ 1858 Mile End 1c 348 I have my doublts that this is the correct one, as there was a marriage for an Alfred Rush in Shorditch.
I also searched the complete BMDs for a marriage for a Catharine Stretton, 1854 -1857 ( oneof her birth dates for the 1861 census put her birth c 1837). I found this one, thinkng, hooray, found it, right name, right distict, right date. Marriage Catharine Stretton Mar ¼ 1857 Oakham 7a 327
BUT, on checking this in the freeBMDs found that the choice of spouse's named was, George Green & William Abbott. No Alfred Rush.
I then checcked the 1861 census for a Catharine Green with a spouse George & found this.
RG9/2307 folio 58 page 8 Market Overton Rutland
George Green age 37 Maltster b Market Overton Catharine wife age 27 b Rutland Greetham Thomas son age 3 b Market Overton Henry Stretton, brother, age 22 b Greetham.
So, I will risk a guess here that this Catharine is perhaps a cousin to the one shown as a dau of Thomas Stretton. It means having a search for the births or bapts of these two Catharines.
There is no birth registered in the complete BMDs or a Catharine Stretton, 1837- 1841.
Just found this, souce IGI
Catharine Stretton bapt 1834 Greetham, Rutland father John Stretton mother Mary Tomblin
Ah, well, back to the drawing board, as they say.
Meliora
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smudger28
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Hi Meliora
I'm blown away by all the help you have provided. Thank you very much.
I'm also very confused by the death of Alfred Rush. I have asked a friend who has the Uppingham fiche to check for a burial. I wonder if his death was ever registered?
Thank you
Paul
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Meliora
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Hello, Paul,
I have always understood that a burial could not take place without a death cert.
I had wondered whether Alfred had been a second given name & he had dropped the first name, but of all the Rush lookups found none with an Aflred for first or second. I also thought about a war death, but could not think, off hand, of any conflict taking place 1857-'61. The Crimean war ended in 1856, I suppose he could have been a casualty who died later but there should be a record somewhere for him.
I have searched the National Burial Index but there was nothing for him in any county.
I had been looking for Alfred in Rutland, not found anything useful so broadened the search for all counties but only found there were several Alfred's in Suffolk, but how to tell who was the right one, I just don't know.
Sorry to be at a deadend on Alfred.
Meliora
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