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Trapper
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I am trying to trace what happened to John Ferguson b.1838 Orton, there seems to be a mystery over his death no of the family seemed to know and would never talk about it all I know is he died somewhere around 1890, I have searched for his parents and and can't find them either.......help would be appreciated
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Pels.
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Hi Trapper,
I can see a John Ferguson, age 13 living in Orton on the 1851 census with his parents William and Sarah.
I will post this information for you.
Kindest regards,
Pels
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N.Yks., D'ham: Gains/Gaines. N. Yks.: Burrill/Burrell, Clarkson, Terry, Percival, Thackeray, Robinson, Elsworth, Bowe, A'ton, Paylor, Addison, Stelling. D'ham/Eng. Illinois/Missouri/Rosyln, USA : Cadwell. Lancs.: Moss, Farrington, Hodskinson, Moore. N'folk: Turner. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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1851 census:
HO107/2431, folio 209, page 7
Cumberland, Orton
Orton Park
William Ferguson, h. mar. 45, Ag. Labourer, b. Cumberland, Grinsdale
Sarah, wife, 42, b. Cumberland, Thursby
John, son, 13, b. Orton
William, son, 12
Archibald, son, 9
Mary, dau, 7
Johnston, son, 4
Young, son, 1
All born in Orton unless otherwise stated.
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N.Yks., D'ham: Gains/Gaines. N. Yks.: Burrill/Burrell, Clarkson, Terry, Percival, Thackeray, Robinson, Elsworth, Bowe, A'ton, Paylor, Addison, Stelling. D'ham/Eng. Illinois/Missouri/Rosyln, USA : Cadwell. Lancs.: Moss, Farrington, Hodskinson, Moore. N'folk: Turner. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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If this was the right year, then this might be the death...
Deaths March Q. 1890
Ferguson John age 52 Wigton vol. 10b pge. 381
perhaps cause will be listed on the death cert.
and this should be the birth then...
Births Dec Q 1838
Ferguson John James Carlisle vol. 25 pge64
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In 1861 John is a lodger and living in Durham:
1861 census:
RG9/3684, folio 67, page 13
Durham, Redworth
John Ferguson, lodger, unm, 23, Railway Lab, b. Cumberland, Orton
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N.Yks., D'ham: Gains/Gaines. N. Yks.: Burrill/Burrell, Clarkson, Terry, Percival, Thackeray, Robinson, Elsworth, Bowe, A'ton, Paylor, Addison, Stelling. D'ham/Eng. Illinois/Missouri/Rosyln, USA : Cadwell. Lancs.: Moss, Farrington, Hodskinson, Moore. N'folk: Turner. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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oops, that one above was born just prior to register as on the IGI:
brother to Johnstone...JOHN FERGUSON Christened- 14 MAY 1837 Saint Giles, Great Orton,
Parents:WILLIAM FERGUSON & SARAH
Sorry, I had the wrong one found earlier on the BMD>>>
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Trapper
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I wonder if he committed suicide as nobody in the family would talk about him..are there any records
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You'd have to see if the death records have any information...
First you need to confirm the date of death to even get hold of the records...Do you have a gravestone, or actual information on your man?
There is a John /Orton 1838 on the 1881 with a family of seven living Dalston, Cumberland...first born 1868...3rd born 1872...Scotland so if this is right he won't be on 1871 for Eng....This says occupation quarryman...do you know the occupation? J.J.
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They did live in Dalston, and he died in about 1890 so I was told. yes he was a quarryman
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WILLIAM FERGUSON
Christened May 25 1806 Grinsdale, Cumberland, England
JOHN FERGUSON & MARY YOUNG
This may be where the fore name "Young" came from
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A marriage of a William to
SARAH JOHNSTON May 21 1836
Holme Cultram, Cumberland, England
so this would also account for the forename Johnston!
SARAH JOHNSON
Christened March 26 1809
Thursby, Cumberland, England
Parents JESSE JOHNSON & JANNET CULLEN
This and Christening of siblings for John can be found here...on the IGI
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
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here is the 1881...Note spelling of Jannet.
John FERGUSON 43 Orton Quarryman Freestone
Margaret FERGUSON 37 Scotland Wife
Annie 13 Scotland
Sarah J. 11 Scotland
Joseph Son 9 Scotland
Mary 7 Westward, Cumberland
Jannet 4 Dalston, Cumberland
Margaret 2 Dalston,
Christopher 5 m Dalston
Dalston is still in Carlisle...could someone see where Margaret is as a widow in 1891? Although it looks as though his work took him all over so he could have died anywhere... I imagine his occupation was also a very dangerous job...
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My Grandpa Stanley has the hanky in his pocket
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1891 Census
Margret Ferguson, Head, Widow, 48, Farm Lab., Scotland
Sarah Jane, dau., 21, dress maker, Scotland
Joseph, son, 19, clagger (?) apprentice, Scotland
Jannet, dau., 14, (no occupation) Dalston
Maggie, dau., 12, scholar, Dalston
Christopher, son, 10, scholar, Dalston
Emma, dau., 5, scholar, Aspatira
County of Cumberland
Town/Village/Hamlet: Aspatira
RG12/4297
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Gandley (but known as Stanley in Canada)- Ireland to Birmingham
Ball, Kempson & Franklin - Birmingham
Shorter - Surrey
Dyer - Devon
Dawkins - Co. Cork, Ireland
Heffernan - Ireland
Huck - Alsace, France
Reinhart - Baden, Germany
Bowman & Ellis - England
Etheridge - Glouchester
Who all came to Canada in a little row boat, clap clap, clap your hands!!
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Perfect, Karen...  as Wigton covers Aspatria!  Nice going...
Trapper looks as though you won't be wasting any money ordering that cert... J.J.
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