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William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828. Completed.
« on: Wednesday 01 August 07 08:19 BST (UK) »

I have the following record from the NBI
William RAWLINS
Buried 30 Mar 1828
Aged 79
Northill
St Mary the Virgin
Anglican


Please could anyone tell me if there is any more information available for William. I have a birth record from IGI about 1748 also a marriage record 1773, but so far no parents.

Thank you.

RBC.
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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 13:04 BST (UK) »

Hi
Just a few of thoughts
The IGI submitted birth of about 1748 for William Rawlings of Northill is most probably a guess from the burial. There aren't any extracted baptisms in Northill for Rawlings before William and Sarah's William in 1774.

Also I notice the marriage for William to Sarah Clark in Northill 19 Dec 1773 is  submitted - however as there is a date it does have a higher than average chance of being correct. Maybe someone could check that marriage entry for any other information??

There is a William Rawlings baptised in Cople (about 3 miles NW of Northill) 24 OCT 1742 parents William and Elizabeth - I notice William and Sarah have a daughter Elizabeth. I know he is older than the age at death you have but that could well be a guess by the informant at the time. I would think he is worth looking into further.

Hope someone else can help further

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derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 August 07 18:36 BST (UK) »

The 19 Dec 1773 marriage is in the PR transcript, with both parties otp, so this member submission is actually correct. The transcript has no other information - you need the microfilm of the parish register to find the witnesses.

The birth of around 1748 is a more typical member submission where the member didn't know/couldn't be bothered to research the baptism, so deducted the standard LDS 25 from the marriage year to arrive at a birth year (because as everyone knows all men married at age 25 and women 21!) and the birth place must be the parish where the marriage took place. So you can ignore anything that says William was born 1748 in Northill, because it's fiction.

For the 1742 baptism that Jan found in Cople the PR transcript gives his father's occupation as farmer, and William Rawlings, farmer, was buried at Cople on 10 Dec 1745 (again, ignore the member submission which states that William baptised 1742 was buried 1 Dec 1745 - someone put 2 and 2 together but made 5). The problem comes with a burial in Cople of a William Rawlings, son of William and Mary, on 29 Dec 1757. There was no other William baptised in Cople and no William and Mary were baptising children there at that time. I wonder if this could have been an error for William and Elizabeth.

I cannot see what happened to Elizabeth Rawlings after the 1745 death of her husband. I can't see a remarriage in Cople nor an obvious burial. However there is a marriage of an Elizabeth Rawlings to Thomas Ayers in Blunham on 27 July 1747 but unfortunately this is another member submission, so needs checking to see if it's real and if so if there is any other detail (doubtful at this time). But a Thomas and Elizabeth Ayers did baptise a daughter in Cople in 1748 and both were buried in Cople on 9 July 1777 (husbandman)  and 21 Oct 1784 (widow) respectively.

I cannot see a marriage for William Rawlings and Elizabeth either, unless they were the ones who married in Potton in 1738, where there were no baptisms in Potton to this couple.

So... could William Rawlings who married in Northill in 1773 have been the William baptised in Cople in 1742? Possibly. There's no other obvious candidate but that's not proof.

Not my day!

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 August 07 06:56 BST (UK) »

Thank you for your interest janan. As you can see David has come up with some more information.

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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 August 07 07:08 BST (UK) »

Hi David

Thank you once more for all the information. I haven't quite sorted it out yet.

I haven't seen a message from Jan, with the baptism of William in Cople in 1742. Where did you find that? I did post a message but got a negative reply.

I must give some praise. The Bedford RootsChat members and the Bedford Records Office are the most helpful people I have ever come across.

RBC  (Ann)

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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 August 07 07:19 BST (UK) »

Hi Ann

It's in Janan's (Jan's) reply of yesterday to your original post.

We try!

Kind regards

David

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 August 07 07:29 BST (UK) »

Thanks. I am permanently confused!! There is a Jan on another site. I was thinking it was from her. Perhaps they are the same person.

Ann.
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Re: William RAWLINS - buried Northill 1828.
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 August 07 10:13 BST (UK) »

Hi Ann
The other Jan isn't me but there are a lot of us - even on Rootschat Cheesy
Hope the information you now have gives you some leads to follow-up - sadly, as David said, no proof as yet that William from Cople is your man.
Happy hunting
Jan Wink
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ALL CENSUS DATA INCLUDED IN POSTINGS IS CROWN COPYRIGHT, FROM  www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

bedfordshire - farr, carver,handley, godfrey, newell, bird, emmerton, underwood,ancell
buckinghamshire- pain
cambridgeshire- bird, carver
hertfordshire- conisbee, bean, saunders, quick,godfrey
derbyshire- allsop, noon
devon - griffin, love, rapsey
dorset- rendall, gale
somerset- rendall, churchill
surrey/middlesex - douglas, conisbee, childs, lyon groombridge
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